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Old 26th July 2008, 07:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Optical output

Howdy. Been a long time since my last post.

I have upgraded my MCE machine. I run video to my LCD via onboard HDMI out and audio by onboard optical to my amp/receiver.
The problem is I cannot control the volume level via my MCE remote, but only with my AMP's remote, which means that I have to have two remotes at any one stage.

Also, I have a HD and Blu Ray drive, but the only software that I can find is PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra as the latest version only supports Blu Ray.
Any ideas what else I can use.

Another thing, I installed the file for my XBOX HD DVD drive, but when I reboot it says new hardware detected. ANy ideas

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Re: Optical output

Some audio cards will allow you to manage audio volume via digital output, but ~5-10%.
This is due to the nature of raw digital output, it is raw, and can be amplified if software allows. I use coax cable and manage it from different remote. Universal remote can help you there.
PowerDVD 8.0 does support Blu-Ray.
Microsoft as usually have chosen wrong side, and now bitter about defeat. Let's wait and see. They will have to incorporate Blu-Ray into VMC, or they will loose market, but it takes time.
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Re: Optical output

Thanks Vlad for the reply

It's a pitty that Powerdvd 8 only supports BluRay and not HD as I have a HD drive and a few movies. I am therefore forced to use version 7.3Ultra.

A few more questions if you don't mind?

1. I can watch normal DVDs in Windows using PowerDVD, but when I try any of my HD movies, the movies flickers. I am sure that it's not a region thing as HD movies aren't region locked, so I don't know what it could be.

2. I have a secondary SATA drive that I record tv to. I notice that I can record for about two minutes before MCE locks up and requires a hard reboot. I have formatted the drive and it doesn't have any bad sectors, I can also access it fine in windows. The motherboard is new. What I have also noticed is that pre-recorded tv (from before the problem) would play back for about 2 mins and then lock up.

3. The quality of DVD playback in MCE is not nearly as good as in windows with POwerdvd. I have selected powerdvd as the prefered codec using the codec check utility. What I have noticed is that there are 3 powerdvd codec installed and one Intervideo (Windvd). The 3 cyberlink codecs were installed when I installed POwerdvd, but in the past I must have installed Windvd (I can't remember doing it) but a can't delete the thing.
Also, I see that the MCE seems to be bypassing the cyberlink audio as when I play a dvd with DTS or a non stereo stream, my amp shows PCM stereo. This is not the case if I watch the same movie in Windows with Powerdvd.

4. Is there any place where I can adjust the audio output when watching live tv. I have noticed that listening the musics and watching any of my stored dvds, the audio level is fine. (about -35) If I watch TV, I have to adjust the amps level to about -45 as it is very loud and sometimes distorted. Any ideas what would cause this to happen?

One confession. When installing my new mobo (GA-MA78G-S2H) and processor I didn't do a complete reinstall, I just installed the new mobo drivers, however point 2 above was happening before the new change.

Sorry for the hassle, and thanks again for the help.

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1. I can watch normal DVDs in Windows using PowerDVD, but when I try any of my HD movies, the movies flickers. I am sure that it's not a region thing as HD movies aren't region locked, so I don't know what it could be.
Not sure, I have never used HDDVD, but you can try AnyDVD is any region problems, it will fix it.

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2. I have a secondary SATA drive that I record tv to. I notice that I can record for about two minutes before MCE locks up and requires a hard reboot. I have formatted the drive and it doesn't have any bad sectors, I can also access it fine in windows. The motherboard is new. What I have also noticed is that pre-recorded tv (from before the problem) would play back for about 2 mins and then lock up.
Hmmm, could be interesting, try to record to first HDD, if OK, then HDD is bad, or you need reinstall for new mobo.

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3. The quality of DVD playback in MCE is not nearly as good as in windows with POwerdvd. I have selected powerdvd as the prefered codec using the codec check utility. What I have noticed is that there are 3 powerdvd codec installed and one Intervideo (Windvd). The 3 cyberlink codecs were installed when I installed POwerdvd, but in the past I must have installed Windvd (I can't remember doing it) but a can't delete the thing.
Also, I see that the MCE seems to be bypassing the cyberlink audio as when I play a dvd with DTS or a non stereo stream, my amp shows PCM stereo. This is not the case if I watch the same movie in Windows with Powerdvd.
I would uninstall, all decoders and install PowerDVD back, then select it as default. You need to setup PowerDVD to do S/PDIF, done from MCE setup.

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4. Is there any place where I can adjust the audio output when watching live tv. I have noticed that listening the musics and watching any of my stored dvds, the audio level is fine. (about -35) If I watch TV, I have to adjust the amps level to about -45 as it is very loud and sometimes distorted. Any ideas what would cause this to happen?
It is hard to normalise sound in MCE/VMC going via S/PDIF, I have the same problem, without distortion, as have very powerful reciever and speakers.

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One confession. When installing my new mobo (GA-MA78G-S2H) and processor I didn't do a complete reinstall, I just installed the new mobo drivers, however point 2 above was happening before the new change.
I would reinstall, too much rubbish in registry/drivers, could cause your HDD issues.

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Re: Optical output

Thanks, short and to the point.

I haven't used my machine for about 6 months and I have become a git rusty. I also thought a complete re-install, but downloading all the updates is going to take hours. I have also bought Video Redo and will need to get my serial as it is not listed in the program itself.

Oh well, it could save hours of troubleshooting.
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Thanks, short and to the point.
That's me.

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I haven't used my machine for about 6 months and I have become a git rusty. I also thought a complete re-install, but downloading all the updates is going to take hours. I have also bought Video Redo and will need to get my serial as it is not listed in the program itself.
Oh well, it could save hours of troubleshooting.
I don't really think that you can troubleshoot it. New mobo will create a chaos in you registry and divers/inf's will overlap. Especially if different chipsets.
Clean install on new mobo is a must IMO. It will actually save you some time.
I have changed lot's of mobos, and it never worked to leave OS intact.
Up to you, of course.
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Re: Optical output

You can program the MCE's remote's volume buttons to use your receiver. That's how I do it. Here's a link to the manual.

And we can't watch HD-DVDs in MCE2005 .
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You can program the MCE's remote's volume buttons to use your receiver. That's how I do it.
I have a Harmony 880 which I need to kick start into life again, so I will be using that. But thanks anyway.

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And we can't watch HD-DVDs in MCE2005
Yip, I have realised that thanks, but how come? Is there no way of hacking the system to do it?
I have bought an internal LG BD/HD drive. Would I then be able to watch BD/HD movies?

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1. I can watch normal DVDs in Windows using PowerDVD, but when I try any of my HD movies, the movies flickers. I am sure that it's not a region thing as HD movies aren't region locked, so I don't know what it could be.
A report back, the problem is/was a 50/60hz issue. Set my output to 60hz and the flickering went away.

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