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Old 25th September 2006, 10:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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XBox As A Media Centre


Microsoft has been trying to get Windows PCs into the living room for years. Yet despite a Media Center facelift in 2003, the PC hasn't been able to shun its complex IT heritage.

Does your DVD player need to have anti-virus protection? No. Does your TV take two minutes to start every time you switch it on? Not unless you bought it in the 1970s. Admittedly, the PC is constantly improving its friendliness. You could argue that it's the most flexible device you can buy for a digital home. But this flexibility is also its biggest drawback. The fact that you can swap out a 60GB hard drive for a 200GB one and install new software means that there's so much more that can go wrong.
Admittedly, the PC is constantly improving its friendliness. You could argue that it's the most flexible device you can buy for a digital home. But this flexibility is also its biggest drawback. The fact that you can swap out a 60GB hard drive for a 200GB one and install new software means that there's so much more that can go wrong.
The launch of the Xbox 360 last year hammered home the fact that the living room is no place for a PC. The PC's raw power, massive storage capacity and flexibility cast it as an ideal digital media server. What the living room needs is a network-connected set-top box that does almost everything a PC can, without being a PC.
It's why the Xbox 360 sums up everything that the digital home is about.
Trojan horse?
On its own, Microsoft's Xbox 360 console offers a high-def gaming experience for anybody who can plug it into an HD-capable TV or PC monitor. Modern games consoles have always had ambitions beyond gaming and, thanks to a built-in DVD drive, the new Xbox can moonlight as a CD/DVD player.
The 360's connectivity options also push the machine as an ideal digital home device. A trio of USB 2.0 ports enable you to plug in digital cameras, MP3 players and portable hard disks, while the optional 20GB hard drive enables you to rip and digitise your music without ever involving a PC in the process.
But it's the 360's ability to join a home network and access the Internet via broadband that really sells the console as a digital home device.
Install Windows Media Connect on any networked Windows XP PC and an Xbox 360 can stream music and photos from it. WMC works beautifully. The setup is straightforward - simply download and run the software, then give the Xbox permission to access your PC's files; no messy IP fiddling required. The quality, even over a Wi-Fi connection, is excellent.
Better still, a 360 can also be networked to a Media Center PC. Here, the console acts as a Media Center Extender, adding video streaming and recorded TV playback to the Xbox's growing digital home talents.
In fact, once the Xbox is connected to a Media Center PC, you gain access to most of the MCE machine's options, including the ability to view the EPG and to schedule recordings. As an Extender, the 360 recreates the cool-blue Media Center interface, giving you full access to the My Pictures, My Videos, My TV, My Music and Online Spotlight options.
The downside of this Media Center embrace is that video streaming requires more bandwidth than a typical 802.11g Wi-Fi setup can muster, typically 7-8Mb for standard definition video. Until next-generation 802.11n equipment starts appearing, wired Ethernet and/or high-speed Powerline-based links are the only ways to guarantee decent video playback.

Going Live
In the long run, Xbox Live may well turn out to be the most revolutionary aspect of the Xbox 360. Microsoft's online service does much more than match a Need For Speed player from Basingstoke with a willing opponent from Manhattan. It's a playground for community building, seamless VoIP and (near) on-demand entertainment.
With the ability to designate other players as 'Friends', the Xbox 360 encourages private multiplayer gaming and enables users to compare their gaming scores and achievements. The Xbox Live Arcade game Geometry Wars, for example, constructs its high score table using your own best score and those from the players in your Friends list.
The Friends list also encourages social networking, enabling Friends to send text and voice messages to each other and to connect with new players they encounter in any online games they play. With an Xbox Live headset you can set up private VoIP conversations with Friends as you watch a DVD and chat to opponents as you play Project Gotham. The technology is seamless, almost effortless.
If the social aspect of Xbox Live is turning heads, then the Xbox Live Marketplace has the potential to be groundbreaking. Right now, you can buy extra Arcade games here, download demos and movie trailers, purchase themes and pictures to customise your Xbox's OS. In the future, the Marketplace could host pay-per-view movie stores, Napster-style music services and rival iTunes for downloadable TV episodes.
"Since the launch of Xbox 360," says a post on Microsoft's Gamerscoreblog, "Xbox Live members have downloaded over 4 million pieces of high definition games, music and movie content from Xbox Live Marketplace."
And this is just the start. Broadband connectivity ultimately opens up the Xbox 360 to the vast range of services that the Internet can supply. Video chat via an Xbox 360 web camera is already in the works, as is an external HD DVD drive and the integration of MSN Messenger with its Xbox Live counterpart.
But imagine the addition of RSS-style sports scores, Internet radio, web browsing and one-click web shopping. With the addition of a USB TV tuner, couldn't the Xbox 360 act as a standalone PVR? As the recent Xbox 360 dashboard update proves, Microsoft's console can be improved and its functionality buffed up as required.
Room for improvement
Let's not get carried away, though. First and foremost, the Xbox 360 is a games machine - the advanced digital home extras not only require PC connectivity but some basic IT know-how to network everything together.
"The game consoles are about games," agrees Michael Gartenberg, a Jupiter Research analyst. "Everything else is totally secondary in terms of functionality and in terms of user interest. There's a pretty big market in games and a lot of money to be made there. That doesn't mean that consoles won't evolve."
Consider this: the Xbox 360 is a triple-core machine with a custom-built ATI graphics processor and a DVD drive. It's broadband-ready, high-def capable and supports VoIP with the addition of a cheap headset. And you can buy it for just over £200. In comparison, ATI's latest PC graphics card costs over £400 on its own.
Like most Microsoft products, we've yet to see the best of the Xbox 360. How will Microsoft develop the home entertainment angle? When will a larger hard drive be released to accommodate video downloads? Is there, as some web-speculators hope, an Xbox portable planned to combat Sony's PS3/PSP combo?
The Xbox, and Microsoft's home-and-entertainment division, is in a marathon, not a sprint," observes Seth Jayson at the Motley Fool. "Microsoft is building toward a future where recurring revenues from small gaming and entertainment purchases, along with license fees, Internet advertising, and revenue streams yet unimagined, will congregate in Microsoft-developed living-room products."
Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3
The Xbox 360 and the PS3 seem destined to meet each other head-on in the battle for the digital home. The web is buzzing with rumours about Sony's strategy - the PS3 will act as a standalone PVR; the PSP will be able to stream video from the PS3 anywhere in the world; the PS3 will link up with Sony's Connect store for music and movie downloads.
The PS3 will also include a high-definition Blu-ray drive as standard, while Microsoft is backing the rival HD DVD format. The PS3 will undoubtedly give Blu-ray the shot-in-the-arm it needs to become the dominant next-gen optical format. The Xbox 360, as we've already pointed out, only has a yesterday's-gen DVD drive.
Despite announcing an external HD DVD drive add-on for the Xbox 360 at CES this year, Microsoft doesn't appear worried about the HD DVD/Blu-ray contest. Perhaps broadband makes it irrelevant.
"A drawn-out high-definition optical-disk format battle helps Microsoft buy time to promote its connected-home strategy," writes Junko Yoshida in the Electronic Engineering Times. "By undercutting the value of standalone pre-recorded media devices, Microsoft hopes to accelerate a consumer electronics transition into the brave new world of 'downloadable' content."
Whatever the future holds for the two consoles, Sony and Microsoft are finally making the big push for living room dominance. It's the push we've been waiting for, the push that we'd hoped companies like Panasonic, Toshiba, Philips et al would have made last year.
And by making this push, Microsoft and Sony will introduce the mass market to the ideas of digital downloads, VoIP calls and streaming video. Whatever Sony has up its sleeves, Microsoft will counter and vice-versa. This tit-for-tat tech-conflict will be the best thing that has ever happened to the digital home.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter who wins this battle for the living room. If we want the digital home idea to gain momentum, it's the battle itself that's important.
Dean Evans is a writer for Digital home Mag which is licensed to Smarthouse Magazine by Future Publishing.

Originally from Smarthouse.com.au

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Re: XBox As A Media Centre

Interesting.

I agree with MS strategy in regards to DVD format war. With download limits on the increase as well as speed (Albeit slowly) content will be delivered over IP soon enough and in some countries already well under way.

THe PS3 will be gorgeous, but inhibitive price wise for a long while. I know I will not own one, prob a Wii and Xbox.

PS3 don't have a vested interest in PC hardware/software sales so they will offer the PS3 as all inclusive PVR. Having said that having a media pc and an xbox gives you MCE in two locations and with another core xbox gives you three.

Hmmm sorry bout the length of my musings.
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Re: XBox As A Media Centre

I must admit I have been wondering for a while if it would be cheaper and more stable to have a standard PC case based media server running MCE networked to an Xbox 360 as a media centre solution. As I see it there could also be other upsides like:

- No need to worry about an expensive DVD codec as the Xbox does all that.
- No need for a high end graphics card as it would only be for maintence on a normal monitor
- No need for the M$ remote just the Xbox one.
- No need for fancy cooling elements to keep the noise down.
- Cheaper case
- Dont need to get standby working as it inst in the lounge and can just be left running all the time.

What other advantages are there?

I wonder what else could be chucked out but I reckon you could probably pull together a media server quite cheaply? But would it be cheaper once you add in the Xbox?
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Re: XBox As A Media Centre

Depends on whether you wanted Premium Pack or Core System Pack. Atleast you would have a next gen console along with MCE.
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Stew I have enjoyed increased stability with xbox 360 as all it does is utilize the tv tuners and record tv.

It doesn't however play xvid natively so you would have to convert to wmv/run on the fly conversion software.
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Is there a solution coming for the xvid conversion issue? Its the only thing holding me back at this stage

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Enough info it seems.

My old Xbox180 does just as good on Media Centre than anything, and I can have it playing TV as well.
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Re: XBox As A Media Centre

Let's be honest.

The very existence of this excellent site is proof that a MCE PC becoming a standard part of the living room is not going to happen. If IT experts have to continuely tweak the system (download new software and codecs, regedit, etc) then what chance the average person on the street.

The only people I know with MCE PCs are geeks and early adopters who just like playing around on a PC and seeing what it can do.

We all know that once Sony or Microsoft can deliver a Playstation or Xbox in a closed system that is also a PVR (with a guide), DVD player, can store ane play photos and music, connects to the internet, and can expand its capacity (add more HDDs), then the days of the MCE are numbered - it's just too complicated and time consuming.

If I were Apple, I would be very conscious of the above and be working very hard to get in first, because on the back of an all-purpose Playstation or Xbox will be an integrated portable music system that will knock iPod off its perch - nothing beats innovation better than more innovation.

The next few years will be very interesting - convergence and the digital home may finally arrive for the masses.

Further, while my MCE is working relatively well, I find my dedicated PVR has a better picture (although I'm closing the gap fast) and is far simpler to operate. Music is much easier using Media Player on a PC and not via MCE. I use MCE predominantly for home movies and photos. I noticed from another thread that some of you have all/most of your DVDs loaded onto your HDDs - while I understand the convenience factor, most people will find it easier to bypass the problem of ripping DVDs to HDDs and just have DVDs on a shelf.

Final word: walk in the shoes of the customer - EASE OF USE will determine the final winner.
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Great comments. Thing is one media PC and 2 or more xbox 260's will be much cheaper than an all inclusive system times however many you want.

I think MS have it right, even if you just install MCE on a server and feed xboxes
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Just grab XBMC off team-xbox.com (it's free), grab an old Xbox from cash converters or eBay and mod it up. They make awesome media centres, if you can put up with 733MHz and 64MB RAM for playing 1080i/p high-def.

and then buy an extender for mce (from u.s. not australia as they never got them!) and you've got a nice little mcbox. you can't go wrong and then upgrade the HD to something like 200gb. i did (but i got the extra 2gb out of the standard 8gb) and store your mp3 collection.

and then solder on some usb and firewire ports, add a dvd burner and it will rock. i don't think you can play live tv as standard on them but you can have web radio which is a pretty cool thing to do. waaaaay cheaper than a 360, the 180 works well.
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