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Old 9th July 2008, 11:37 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

New pictures of Windows Vista Media Center Feature Pack 2008 (thats a mouthful, VMCEFP2008 anyone? )

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...i_b1_shots.asp

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Old 9th July 2008, 03:53 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

Current speculation is that there may be 2 releases for Media Centre this year, the first one as soon as this month:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/07/08...due-this-year/
 


Old 9th July 2008, 04:06 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

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Current speculation is that there may be 2 releases for Media Centre this year, the first one as soon as this month:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/07/08...due-this-year/
That article holds nothing but good news

Simultaneous support of any type of TV Tuner, TV Tuner restrictions lifted (2 for Home Premium and 4 for Ultimate, this also means something else interesting)

If there are different tuner amounts for different Vista SKU's that would tell me that this is an update rather then a new SKU for Vista, which would rock immensely

I plan on getting Home Premium, but I would only have a max of 2 tuners anyway
 


Old 9th July 2008, 04:19 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

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That article holds nothing but good news

Simultaneous support of any type of TV Tuner, TV Tuner restrictions lifted (2 for Home Premium and 4 for Ultimate, this also means something else interesting)

If there are different tuner amounts for different Vista SKU's that would tell me that this is an update rather then a new SKU for Vista, which would rock immensely

I plan on getting Home Premium, but I would only have a max of 2 tuners anyway
I've got Home Premium with 5 tuners now so it better not break my setup!!
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Old 9th July 2008, 07:57 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

There appears to be a bug regression in one of the Fiji screen shots.. (see attached image)

You can see all the empty card readers icons - this bug was fixed in VMC in an update earlier this year!
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Old 9th July 2008, 08:09 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

What do you think? Dodgy photoshop or bug because of Pre-Release Status?
 


Old 9th July 2008, 08:43 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

My guess is that if we work on the assumption that Fiji isn't a rollup, then it may have been installed on a clean build of SP1, thus the return of the drive letters.

If they hit Windows Update, this could potentially go away.

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Old 9th July 2008, 08:49 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

I doubt its a dodgy photo shop - cause there really isnt anything new in the screen shot that they tried to 'fake' hehe.. imelda could be right thou.. but how silly is that!
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Old 15th July 2008, 05:16 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

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I would imagine that WTV stands for Windows TV and that would probably include some new copyright protection to prevent from being modified or decoded by 3rd party applications like VideoRedo.
Not true about the DRM stuff.

.dvr-ms files are asf files with mpeg2 put in them. asf being the wmv file format.
With the needs of new broadcast standards, such as multiple video/audio streams and interactive content, there were too many limitations of the asf file format.

The two that were unsolvable for us were:
1. No dynamic format change
2. Limited attribute space on media samples

Without support for dynamic format change, we had to do all sorts of crazy things to get channel change to even work for simple mpeg2 cases, transitions from mpeg2 to other formats was going to be challenging to get working.
The space for attributes was limited and since we could not put data into the format data (see above) we were quickly running out of space for stream specific meta-data.

With our own format we could:
1. Rich in-band data
2. Virtually limitless number of streams
3. Dynamic streams
4. Meta-data size not bound
5. Something we could grow on

We had reached the point where asf could not gracefully support our needs anymore and the engineering effort to implement new features into it was not that much less than a new file format

There was talk of publishing a white paper on the format. I’ll follow up on that.
Breaking apps is sad and we tried to avoid it, but apps that use the existing (pre-fiji) whitepaper and APIs they should not be broken.

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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

Mike,

In regards to DVR-MS, could you explain why the resolution & bit-rate listed in the metadata of a recording is always wrong? It's always a US SD resolution & the listed bit-rate is way off.

BTW, WTV doesn't seem to include it at all - is that correct?

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Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

Mike

Thanks for that post, I figured that the new format (wtv) would have been developed due to limitations of the old format and moving forward would require somthing more flexible.

Having been in software development for about 12 years now I can certainly understand why things seem like madness from the outside looking in, but from the inside, decisions are made that make sense. It sounds like MS have made a forward looking decision with the wtv format.
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Question Re: ‘Fiji’ on track to debut before Windows 7

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With our own format we could:
1. Rich in-band data
2. Virtually limitless number of streams
3. Dynamic streams
4. Meta-data size not bound
5. Something we could grow on
Sounds good. I have no problem with a new file format - but - will there be a tool available to extract video/audio streams? (eg. to a .mpg file), or will we have to wait for third party tools to be developed?
 


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