JRobbo's tvxml.xml and Vista?

[Minotaur]

Howdy
Has anyone found a nice way to get a JRobbo guide in to their Vista EPG?

[vlad]

Originally Posted by Minotaur

Howdy
Has anyone found a nice way to get a JRobbo guide in to their Vista EPG?

I had to google for JRobbo
I have not seen any threads here, but you never know.

[bella]

Minotaur,

Where are you living? Why Jrobbo guide?

[Minotaur]

Originally Posted by bella

Minotaur,

Where are you living? Why Jrobbo guide?

I'm in Adelaide
Why JRobbo's guide? Because it's complete and gets updated more than once a week.

[bella]

Why JRobbo's guide? Because it's complete and gets updated more than once a week.

So does Free Epg with OZTivo option installed.

[vlad]

Not to mentioned IceTV

[bella]

Not to mentioned IceTV

STILL THE BEST AND THIS FOR A LOUSY $50.00 A YEAR.

[Minotaur]

Originally Posted by bella

So does Free Epg with OZTivo option installed.

Not for Adelaide it doesn't - it's frequently missing data, especially towards the end of a week.

[Minotaur]

Originally Posted by bella

STILL THE BEST AND THIS FOR A LOUSY $50.00 A YEAR.

$50 a year? From where? Their own site says 12 months costs $99...

[bella]

This was a special offered for our members. Call Icetv and see if you still can get the deal,

If not so, install Free Epg and during the setup opt for OzTivo.

[bella]

Well, I have an idea. I am sure they need some help at OzTivo putting data in for Adelaide. So, if you help out you will get an up to date tv guide all the time.

http://minnie.tuhs.org/twiki/bin/view/TVGuide/

[Minotaur]

Originally Posted by bella

Well, I have an idea. I am sure they need some help at OzTivo putting data in for Adelaide. So, if you help out you will get an up to date tv guide all the time.

http://minnie.tuhs.org/twiki/bin/view/TVGuide/

OR... I could work out how to import an xmltv.xml file in to Vista's EPG, hence the question in my original post.

[impact]

Minotaur - a lot of people live with their heads in the sand around here, not knowing of things like jroboos guides... which is somewhat of a pity - but we are all somewhat spoilt for choice.

Bella is right about oztivo being a community guide and if you were to update the blanks, it would benefit more than yourself - however.... updating the oztivo guide from jrobbo may be a questionable

Firstly - to answer your question... Yes some users do use jrobbos guides for their Vista MCE environment, its fairly easy to do - but you will need to fiddle. Programs lke Bladerunner and Quickguide will allow you to take any xmltv file and load them into MCE.

Search the forums here for bladerunner and vista - you will find many posts. Only a particular version of Bladerunner appears to work with Vista though...

JRobbos guides are sourced from many different websites or locations and are far more complete than oztivo - in content and detail and also regions... However, lets be honest and say what they are - they are scrapped from websites. Some with permission of the website, and others possibly not. Even with those scrapes of the permissible websites - possibly not completely legite, as those websites probably dont have the authority to give the permission....
Given this - jrobbo's guides are certainly the most content rich and accurate. They also get updated daily for the next week - which is fantastic

OZTivo - well its a community base that updates it, and lets face it, do all the community members who update the data doing it legitimately? Looking at the data will show many instances of the data possibly infringing copyright from other sources. OF course the biggest problems of this data - is having the community update it, accuracy, its only produced for up to the end of the week... So come Friday, you dont get a full weeks guide through to the next Friday...

Then we have icetv - it is more accurate than oztivo, should be as accurate (if not more) than jrobbo, and it is now legitimate - fully legal. Of course it does not cover all regions or paytv - so it does not suit everyone, and some people do not like the idea for paying for a service.

BUt put all the legal stuff aside for the moment.... Icetv is the only service that has a database at the back end to control the internal MCE numbering systems. Using oztivo / epgstream / jrobbo may cause errors or reduced functionality in the MCE system. It is common for series recordings not to occur, unable to setup recordings on new shows, unless you reboot your MCE machine after loading the guide data etc etc....

It comes down to the benefts and disadvantages...

Icetv - is it available for your region
- willing to pay $100/yr or less
- is legal and proven so in a court of law
- run by a company that publishes their address / gives support / gives you a legal right to complain about and contact etc.
- works with MCE, giving proper category support, episode references, gives duplicate episode functionality, no loss of series, no errors requiring rebooting to get the guide to work
- easy to setup
- always get 7 days in advance of programming guide

Epgstream
- uses oztivo data (still questionable on legality) or their own data (definately illegal)
- easy to setup
- errors possible in user interface and functionality
- no company to complain to / compensate / sue / legalities / support = best effort
- free
- only source of paytv data
- guide data only gives up to the end of the week... sometimes only giving 2-3 days in advance
- accuracy = as good as the community feels in updating it

oztivo and bladerunner
- as per epgstream...
- legality... hmmm..... its legality remains on how honest the community is !
- harder to setup
- support is your own / friends

JRobbo
- As per oztivo above except, you can get better quality information and you get a longer period of guide data - a weeks worth...



Lastly - FYI.... Rumour has it that the patch for Vista MCE to be hopefully available later this yeat will include an embedded xmltv import feature. Lets hope