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Old 17th May 2007, 11:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question about video sizes and DVD burning

I hope it's the right place to put this topic, after 800+ posts I thought I'd know.

Video size: 512x368
Audio: 48000hz, 16bps, 2ch
Length: 2:06:06
Bitrate: 973kbps

If I have a video like that with those specs above, will they look OK on a DVD when put on a 19" screen, or look like pure crap?
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

If you already know the spec why can't you just burn it to a disc and try it?

Also depends on your own personal taste of "OK".

Either way, it seems a fairly low quality.
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

Because until I have downloaded 10 files of the video (they're split into RAR files and need to be combined to make one full video) I can't tell.

It does seem a bit low but as long as it's a bit better than VHS quality that's good enough.
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

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Because until I have downloaded 10 files of the video (they're split into RAR files and need to be combined to make one full video) I can't tell.
You must be getting it from the wrong place (usenet?).

The quality will be a qualified "OK", I've seen similar files and the image quality is what I'd call "soft" and usually the audio is plain vanilla stereo.

If you've "obtained" any TV shows (using the same method) the quality of the movie is likely to be similar to the HDTV versionsof TV shows, and no where near the quality of an HR tagged TV show (which are higher resolution).

When you're taking about putting them on DVD - how are you going to do that? re-encode to MPEG2? or just burn the avi straight to disk? Converting to DVD format will reduce quality even further.
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

Oh no, not from Usenet at all - I wouldn't have a clue how to use it. I've had a whole bunch of movies for me to grab, just as a normal download. I think it's because it's such a big file for most to download.

The ten files are 94MB each = 940MB DivX files. I am putting them on just as AVI files, so they don't lose any quality. I know if they're AVIs they'll lose quality when converted to MPEG2. Not sure about the sound but it is just 2ch stereo.

Oh well, I guess just download them and see what happens. Thanks for your advice.
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

I found an old DivX file I downloaded ages ago at the same resolution and it doesn't look too bad - clear enough for me. But I am burning them directly to disc to not lose quality.

Can MCE2005 do this - burn AVI files straight to CD or DVD, because that's what I'll use.
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

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Can MCE2005 do this - burn AVI files straight to CD or DVD, because that's what I'll use.
Nope.

It's hard enough getting it to put DVR-MS on to DVD.

If you want a "plays on anything" DVD, you'll need something like Xilisoft or ConvertXToDVD (I think Nero can do it too?). You'll probably make some coasters before getting it right.

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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

I love coasters. Plus MCE would probably take ten years wouldn't it?

Alright then. Apparently Nero can do it as you say, so I'll try it out. Thanks for your help.
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

Are you guys talking the same thing here?

Drewhiggins - you said you weren't converting them ? If so then you just want to copy/burn the avi files to a CD/DVD? MCE05 does this from within the MCE menu system. I've only done this from avi files that are under 'My Videos', on my remote I press the 'i' button when the first file is highlighted, then go to create disc (or something like that) from the little pop-up menu that comes up. Choose data disc and then you can add more files as you want to burn to that disc. There is no conversion of the files so the process will take as long as your burner does to create the disc.

Obviously your DVD player needs to be able to play AVI files off a disc, but most seem to be able to do this now.

This is similar to the way you can burn DVR-MS files to DVD, but with the DVR-MS files to play on a DVD player then you'll need to have the Sonic Encoders installed to do the conversion. As this is a conversion of file type etc then this speed will be largely goverened by your CPU and RAM.

Edit: Without the SonicEncoders you can still burn the DVR-MS files but this will just be copying the file and I'm not aware of DVD players that can do these files so this method is limited to play-back on MCE/Vista machines.
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

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Are you guys talking the same thing here?

Drewhiggins - you said you weren't converting them ? If so then you just want to copy/burn the avi files to a CD/DVD? MCE05 does this from within the MCE menu system. I've only done this from avi files that are under 'My Videos', on my remote I press the 'i' button when the first file is highlighted, then go to create disc (or something like that) from the little pop-up menu that comes up. Choose data disc and then you can add more files as you want to burn to that disc. There is no conversion of the files so the process will take as long as your burner does to create the disc.

Obviously your DVD player needs to be able to play AVI files off a disc, but most seem to be able to do this now.

This is similar to the way you can burn DVR-MS files to DVD, but with the DVR-MS files to play on a DVD player then you'll need to have the Sonic Encoders installed to do the conversion. As this is a conversion of file type etc then this speed will be largely goverened by your CPU and RAM.

Edit: Without the SonicEncoders you can still burn the DVR-MS files but this will just be copying the file and I'm not aware of DVD players that can do these files so this method is limited to play-back on MCE/Vista machines.
I think I've confused everyone. And, myself.

I didn't think you could do AVIs in MCE so I thought convert them to WMV or something?

But if you can then it's a simple matter of getting the files, putting them on disc with the Create DVD program in MCE with the use of SonicEncoders - which I downloaded from HP.com as told to do, no need for conversions.

Well my system is a 3.06GHz Celeron with 512 RAM so it shouldn't take too long as a normal disc only takes 40mins for a DVD with 4.3GB. Thanks for your confirmation. Oh, and there aren't any DVD players that can play DVR-MS files in Australia anywhere.

Sorry for confusing you.
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

It's very easy to get confused with HTPC issues.

I use Crunchie (scheduled task each night) to process my recording more than a week old and this converts the recordings to AVI files which I can then see under "My Videos". To copy these to a DVD if I want to give someone a copy then I just do the process I described. You don't need the Sonic Encoders for this process (only for the DVR-MS > DVD) as you are just copying the avi file to the disc.

I expect that Logifuse was thinking you wanted to convert the AVI to a DVD compatible format which you can't do within the MCE menu and you have to use something like he suggested.

I've only tried it in passing and not taken it any further but after I've burnt a DVD with straight AVI files I've put it back in the MCE05 machine and found that when I go to "My DVD" under the menu then it doesn't recognise the disc. It's no big deal since I keep the AVI files I want on the HDD (hence the growing number and size of HDD's in my system) but I thought it was a curious issue.
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Re: Question about video sizes and DVD burning

I like using Videoredo - for the couple of hours I record each week it's really easy, just down to MPEGs but if there's something I like (a live concert, which this video in question is) then I'll tape that.

But I may have confused him on the topic. Oh well, all is good now - I was able to use the MCE DVD creator for a file last time and it did a good job. HTPCs are confusing things!!!
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