EASY Instructions for Adding Extra Tuners to VMC Update - Page 3

beefeater · **10th May 2008, 12:15 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neilwa

I have it on authority from the official Australian Hauppauge distributor (via email) that some tuner cards people are getting from other sources are essentially foreign cards not suited for Australian conditions. in fact, a major brand VMC build company has been known to source cheap imports that are not designed specifically for the Australian market. please also keep this in mind if you have had problems getting more than 2 tuners to work. I wanted to post this in my original sticky thread but the forum denies access after so many days - also means I can't update data when it becomes available - which, quite frankly, is quite a pain!

So can you give us any more details on this, are you talking about hauppauge cards?
I have had a Hauppauge Novat500 for about a year and just purchase a new card and the tuner configuration gets stuffed up about once a week. How can I tell if I am effected?

My fault always seems to relate to the appearance of a tuner scan request folder appearing under the tuners user settings in the registry.

The reason I suspect my card is the problem is that even after doing a reimage to a time when the 4 tuners all worked will not fix the problem.

Any ideas please.

beefeater · **11th May 2008, 06:02 PM**

CAUTION to all

When you restart I have noted the settings sometimes get changed
1. The record prefered setting is rest from fffffff back to 0
2. The record prefered and watch prefered seting equal the same number i.e 1 or 2

Lastly I am attaching an image of the error that occurs about once a week where either 3 of 1 only of the tuners will record.

Seems some tuner rescan kicks in and causes the tunerequest registry to appear.

Does anyone know how to stop this?

matth · **15th May 2008, 05:20 PM**

OK I just don't get it. Everyone says how easy MCE Tuner Config is but it's doing my head in.
I've got 4 tuners ( 2 x haupaugge T500's). Running MCE Tuner Config shows 4 tuners all enabled for MCE. Each tuner has a differnet colour and 4 variables each: Watch order, Record Order, Watch Preferred and Record Preferred.

There are 2 config boxes, Watch perferred and Record Preferred with 4 option each.
No matter how I arrange these variable I can't get all the ducks to line up.
I can get the 4 tuners to arrange for watch and record order eg 0,1 1,2 2,3 3,0

I can't get the watch/record preferred options lined up. Changing any of these stuffs up the watch/record order. And then I get so confused trying to get the first step right again.

I dont see, when there are 4 variables for each tuner, 16 in all, how to get them all set correctly with only 4 options available for each watch/record preferred box. To me that's only 8 possible combo's, not 16

HELP!!!!!!

emuexport · **15th May 2008, 06:29 PM**

Firstly thanks for this info so far (since last night - I have four tuners working!). Tested it and it worked perfectly I could record 3 programs at once and change channels on my watch tuner!

@matth: from my brief personal experience I only used MCE Tuner config to enable my two tuners in MCE. I then editted my Registry myself as per the instructions in this post. Try that and see how you go if MCE tuner config isn't working for you.

Justin

philzgr8 · **15th May 2008, 07:05 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by matth

OK I just don't get it. Everyone says how easy MCE Tuner Config is but it's doing my head in.
I've got 4 tuners ( 2 x haupaugge T500's). Running MCE Tuner Config shows 4 tuners all enabled for MCE. Each tuner has a differnet colour and 4 variables each: Watch order, Record Order, Watch Preferred and Record Preferred.

There are 2 config boxes, Watch perferred and Record Preferred with 4 option each.
No matter how I arrange these variable I can't get all the ducks to line up.
I can get the 4 tuners to arrange for watch and record order eg 0,1 1,2 2,3 3,0

I can't get the watch/record preferred options lined up. Changing any of these stuffs up the watch/record order. And then I get so confused trying to get the first step right again.

I dont see, when there are 4 variables for each tuner, 16 in all, how to get them all set correctly with only 4 options available for each watch/record preferred box. To me that's only 8 possible combo's, not 16

HELP!!!!!!

As per the above response, I would just follow the instructions to edit those settings in the registry editor after you have enabled them using the tuner config app. That's how I did it anyway. Just use the settings from the initial post for 4 tuners.

ideas_man69 · **16th May 2008, 10:27 AM**

hey guys.. ive used some other tool i found on the net before even coming here to read (very stupid of me i know).

anyway to restore this registry area back to defaults? maybe if i rescan for tv services it will put it all back to default?

once its back to normal - i run MCE Tuner Config from the download section to easily setup the 3 tuners, then do some registry editing. is this the proper config for 3 tuners?

-------------------------Tuner 1----Tuner 2----Tuner 3
Record Order----------2------------1-----------0
Record Pref------------0------------ffffffff------ffffffff
Watch Order-----------0------------1-----------2
Watch Pref ------------ffffffff-------0-----------0

GlenR · **16th May 2008, 11:43 AM**

Looks good to me.

graememac · **16th May 2008, 01:18 PM**

Hi Guys,

Great thread.

I've been running VMC with a PVR-500 (Dual analgue tuner).
I've just installed a Nova-T-500 (in addition to the PVR-500).
When configuring MCE, it seems to only give me the option to scan for channels using one or the other (i.e the 2 analogue tuners in the PVR-500 or the 2 Digital tuners in the Nova-T-500).

Can I run VMC so that it recognises both the Digital and Analogue cards at the same time?

Assuming this is possible, if I understand the thread correctly, I need to run the MCE Tuner Extender so that we can get VMC to use both cards. Is this correct?

Cheers
Graeme

GlenR · **16th May 2008, 01:27 PM**

Media Centre does not support more than two tuners nor the mix of anaogue and digital tuners. i's one or the other. There is a hack available on this thread if you want to try to run analogue and digtal mixed.

GlenR · **25th May 2008, 02:33 PM**

Just had an intersting conflict and don't know why it happened.

The wife likes to record Trinny and Susannah (yes, I know, but what can you do?) and the one this Thursday didn't schedule itself as MC believes that the episode was already recorded. A check showed that this is because IceTV gave this week's episode and last week's episode the same title, so MC was doing the logical thing and saying "not recording thsi because you already have it". Fair enough - IceTV mistake I'll just record this episode as a one-off.

When I tried to manually record it I got recording conflict as "you can only record two shows at a time" - considering I have three tuners this was an odd thing. But, as I hadn't put this hack in place yet (yes, I've been lazy) I figured I was just bumping into this problem. So I put the reg changes in and guess what? Same problem when I tried to record this episode - only two shows at once.

I then picked another show starting at the same time and this was accepted.

So, I set the show via manual record - set start time, finish time, channel, etc - for the exact same time and channel that recording from the guide would have been, and it was accepted without conflict.

So, if I picked the show from the guide it conflicted because I was recording more than two things, but if I added a manual recording for the exact same time and channel it was OK. Weird!

logifuse · **25th May 2008, 10:03 PM**

That's definitely down to the double up guide data - I had the exact same thing with The State Within a couple of Thursdays back - episode 3 was tagged as episode 2 & I had to set a manual recording to get it to schedule. The kicker was that the ep data must have been updated by Ice prior to the Thursday night, so the series recording came back in to the mix & I ended up with 2 recordings.

For some reason you get a generic "you can only record 2 shows" message despite that not being the error - I got it despite only having 1 other show (SVU) scheduled up against it! So even when it was under the 2 tuner 'limit' it freaked.

Justin

Astrotoy7 · **26th May 2008, 12:47 AM**

It can be even easier

(These are also in the downloads area)

MCE Tuner Priority App

MCE Tuner Extender

That above pic is from my setup >> (I have the analogue tuners from my dntv card switched off as that card has no harwdare mpeg2 for its analogue capture > unlike the pvr150 > which is essential for a decent cap)

a working analogue/digital mix is possible.. and fully stable with 'mixed' guide etc... all you need is some patience and reading skills

astro