Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

[dgaust]

The hardware encoder only works on the analogue side, and converts the analogue signal into an mpeg-2 stream.... it's then passed by the driver to VMC which uses the stream to write to the file.

So it doesn't matter to the card or driver what format the data is written to, that's the job of the software.

[neodiablo]

Hello all,

I bought my card about 1 month ago.

Initially I had problems with it not picking up local digital station ch7, but then I bought a bunny ears antenna which is HD capable and the reception is now ok.

Overall I find the card very good (the bracket problem was there, but they sent me a new one) and I only get stuttering if I am playing a game at the same time as recording.

Couldn't be more pleased with this card at this point.

[Mark1]

Thats rich, Give me a break!
You haven't had what I've had, and gone through what I've been through, because if you had, YOU would have the same opinion as I do.
Its a whole range of things, not just how the picture looks.
And just facing off the two cards doesn't cut it, unless you compare them both in a range of situations over a period of 2 years.
Sure, it might reveal a few facts about the two (good and bad, I guess), but my thoughts stand, no matter what you two want to try to make me out to be.
I got annoyed things were heading down a certain track because of a bracket malfunction. That user was being totaly unreasonable about the situation. I can understand that there may have been some initial frustration, but come on. Not clear about the whole OEM thing, manual not good enough, input capability not clearly advertised??
There ya go.
I practice what I preach, hows that hypocritical?
And I'll state again, as per my last post, "It does seem however that some of the signal issues happening have been accepted by New Magic/Hauppauge and hopefuly some resolution is on its way. I for one have never had any such issue with mine. I am a little concerned that some of the later versions of the card may differ slightly with earlier ones (I have an earlier one), and that may be a reason. I suggested that in an earlier post and even encouraged New Magic to help out those users."
It was early on, I was wrong.
Still a great card though...

[suntoucher]

I got to say the 2200 seems to be a great digital tuner.............but from my few hours of use NOT the best analogue tuner, which I think is well known..... did i read that here??Should i be getting a great analogue picture??
I don't have the best reception as it is and through the plasma analogue is more "reliable" signal so we'll see how good the 2200 turns out to be

And for those wondering about tv pack.......the 2200 and tv pack worked lovely together.

[Mark1]

If you don't have good reception then no, you can't expect any analog tuner to give you a great picture. Regarding a tuner that is built into a TV working better (which I think is what you mean when you say your plasma analog is more reliable), here is a quote that I read once that has stuck in my head, "Computer tuners are still less sensitive (requrie more signal) than most PVRs since they have moved to very compact silicon tuners instaed of the larger traditional tuner cans."
I have never used my 2200 as an analog tuner, so maybe I shouldn't comment, as that would be hypocritical of me
Hmmm, thanks for the feedback about TV Pack. Although I'm still not sure about it yet. It seems to break more functions than it gives back.
Briefly, what extra does it give you?

[suntoucher]

hi mark and thanks for starting this thread.
having never used wmc without the tv pack its hard to say but i will keep you up to date on my progress.

[MCVista]

Originally Posted by Mark1

Thats rich, Give me a break!
You haven't had what I've had, and gone through what I've been through, because if you had, YOU would have the same opinion as I do.
Its a whole range of things, not just how the picture looks.
And just facing off the two cards doesn't cut it, unless you compare them both in a range of situations over a period of 2 years.
Sure, it might reveal a few facts about the two (good and bad, I guess), but my thoughts stand, no matter what you two want to try to make me out to be.
I got annoyed things were heading down a certain track because of a bracket malfunction. That user was being totaly unreasonable about the situation. I can understand that there may have been some initial frustration, but come on. Not clear about the whole OEM thing, manual not good enough, input capability not clearly advertised??
There ya go.
I practice what I preach, hows that hypocritical?
And I'll state again, as per my last post, "It does seem however that some of the signal issues happening have been accepted by New Magic/Hauppauge and hopefuly some resolution is on its way. I for one have never had any such issue with mine. I am a little concerned that some of the later versions of the card may differ slightly with earlier ones (I have an earlier one), and that may be a reason. I suggested that in an earlier post and even encouraged New Magic to help out those users."
It was early on, I was wrong.
Still a great card though...

I think you are confirming that you really are what some of us think already

Sorry mate, but I think you would be better off saying less at this stage.

Go read your own posts at the beginning of this thread, on the same day that you got this card, you made all this fuss about what a fantastic thing it was; now you are trying to tell me that in your own words And just facing off the two cards doesn't cut it, unless you compare them both in a range of situations over a period of 2 years.
So you are suggesting that I should compare the S3 and the HVR-2200 over a period of two years, while you can do it in a day?

[Mark1]

Sorry 'MATE', but why don't you just speak for yourself. Your the only one (and maybe one other who can remain nameless ATM) that thinks you can go around and say whatever you want. But for every negative post from YOU, there is a positive one or two from other members, who obviously have a brain, and appreciate my opinions. WOW, look at that, I've been thanked 21 times.
Unless you have some sort of poll about me on another thread I haven't seen
You always put everything I say into your own little context that makes me look like an idiot. And only someone like you would go back and spend an hour reading 561 replies to dig up quotes of mine.
My problem with the DigitalNow card I once had was simple. At the time I had the first generation of the Dvico PCI Dual card. It worked, but was a little twitchy with SBS (I lived in a rental property at the time with a DIY roof antenna which may have been the problem with that one). I tried a DigitalNow card and a tune didn't even find SBS. Your probably thinking, 'yea, but you just said the antenna signal wasn't up to par'. But I don't care. It obviously didn't like a lower signal and the Dvico worked better. So even if I fixed the antenna, why would I want it. Its simple, but made my mind up.
Yep, after 2 years of wasted time with every other card (some recommended on here, some not so great, but tried anyway) I finally found one that didn't give me the ****s. By that I mean it actually worked...very well. And that was enough for me. My recommendation for everyone truly is, 'don't waste your time like I did'. And thats it...
This is a great card. Should I have to explain that as with all PC components, some combinations of hardware may not work as well as others. So some users may need to iron out their own issues that may or may not occur.
So, back off with the personal attacks, and go run your little tests!
Its a shame it had to be like this for you, I might actually be interested in what you have to say.

[DVB4U]

hey guys, has anyone used Dscaler with this card? If not, what other software you guys use to view and capture analog input with this card?

[dgaust]

Originally Posted by Mark1

(and maybe one other who can remain nameless ATM)

I guess that's a not-so-subtle reference to me, would you like to compare the number of thanks? Is this a "mine's bigger than yours competition"?

Just pointing out that you feel free to slag off other manfucturer's devices in numerous threads, when you know full well that the DVICO's issues are now fixed and the DigitalNow's are used by many many people with no problems.

In fact, I would say the number of people who have had problems with the S2s would be similar to those with the HVR-2200s and the S2's were a very early PCI-e card (where you would have expected more issue).

Yet when someone complains, however vigorously, you feel the need to jump on that person. People have left you alone to express your opinions, and frankly in the DVICO thread you were often borderline offensive, let others express theirs.

[Mark1]

Its great you are able to suspect yourself.

Good on ya, really, your both the ones with no idea.

And I'll continue to slag them off as you call it. Everyone still has their own right to go and buy whatever they like. Its just in reference to what I really have been through.
I have more experience in computers that you will probably ever know, and I can tell you I'm more than qualified to make the comments I do.

The Dvico's will never be fixed. Because of the way they dealt with the whole situation, I would never buy another one no matter what they claimed. They allowed that thread to crap on for far too long. Expecting users to accept a dodgy DIY fix. What a joke that was. And through the whole process I was telling people to return their cards. And I copped alot of crap about that view. But in the end I had people PM'ing me asking for help on the best way to go about it. I even asked people to drop me an email if they wanted me to put them on a list of unhappy customers. I had dozens of replies.

I'm happy the DigitalNows are going so well. But that doesn't change the fact that, IMO, this card is better. But that just my opinion.

In you saying I jump on other people. I never the only one. Recently some of the comments were a little silly and unreasonable.

People DON'T leave me alone to express my opinions, ie, you two.

So just let it go, and get on with your life... If you have one.

p.s. Sorry DVB4U, I haven't. Hopefully someone else will be able to answer that one.

[Mike]

OK guys, there's nothing like a spirited debate to bring out all sides of a position - BUT - we need to take a step back and get our focus back on the subject at hand and leave the personalities out of it.

So can we please - from now - be civil to each other again and relax a little, after all, it's only a tuner card.

Many thanks,
Mike