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Old 27th February 2008, 07:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

I have never cared much for the anologue input/encoder side of any of the TV cards I have ever tested. I have only ever wanted a Dual Digital card that worked.
These are the cards I have used, and over time, either rejected by returning them, or sold.
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1. Dvico Dual Digital PCI,
2. Digital Now Dual Digital PCIe(think it was the discontinued one - about a year ago),
Went back to the Dvico for a while running on XP MCE.
Upgraded to Vista - Found the PCI Dvico unstable/signal issues.
3. Compro E700 PCI,
4. Dvico Dual Digital PCIe,
5. Hauppauge HVR-2200. ***JACKPOT***

Personaly, I only had the DigitalNow card for less than a week, before I requested a refund. It just wasn't coping well for me with my signal at the time.
When I upgraded to Vista and wanted to change the PCI Dvico, first I tried the Compro and the second tuner barely had any signal. So I quickly exchange that for a PCIe Dvico.
Well, I was never satisfied with that one. It had a serious issue with handling the channel 9 stream, and would constantly stutter. But I lived with it for 4 months.
The HVR-2200 is a dream.

Like I said, its sold as an OEM package. In this case its a fancy way of saying it comes in a white box and has the bare essentials for system builders.
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- WINTV HVR-2200 PCIe board,
- WINTV Installation CD-ROM (I used latest downloaded drivers),
- Antenna IEC Female (for radio I think - not using),
- 1xFull and 1xHalf height bracket,
- WINTV for Media Center Quick Installation guide.

Installation is a simple 3 step process;
1. Fit the card,
2. Install driver,
3. Begin setting up Media Center.
Thats pretty much how the manual explains it - simple.
It does go into a little more detail if you need it, it even tells you the steps to take in Media Center to setup your channels.

This is what I have noticed since using it;
- Channel changing 'is' super fast,
- resume from S3 sleep is no problem,
- Very stable. By that I mean, you don't notice any lack of strength when recording with both tuners. You can be recording 1 channel, and the second tuner will change channels with ease. With previous tuners I have had, you just noticed a difference in performance when 1 tuner was in use.
- Maybe its just me, but the picture looks better (is that possible?)
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

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Does the main Philips/NXP chipset do the MPEG2 encoding?

What demodulators is it using - are they the newer TDA10048?
Here is a Fact Sheet, I think it answers your first question. Not sure about the second.
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

Any info on running two - so four tuners?

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Old 27th February 2008, 11:09 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

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Any info on running two - so four tuners?

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I guess that is a question that someone who has tried 2 cards together can only answer (or Newmagic/Hauppauge support).
But, I would love to say based on my single card use so far, I reckon Media Center (I have Vista) would love you for it
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

I must concur with Mark1 on this one. HVR-2200 is really very good when it comes to seamless integration of a DVB-T card with VMC. Unfortunately, I was a bit disappointed with the limitations to the analogue side, which weren't clearly described in the documentation pointing to a well known sales tactics where some imperfections are hidden to potential buyers. To put it simply this card as a hybrid is useless due to the limitations in VMC and for around $200 people will have to make their own choice whether it's worth dishing that amount of money for a card that delivers only a part of its functionality it is suppose to.
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

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Any info on running two - so four tuners?

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Hopefully info by this weekend. I botched up an attempt earlier this week!
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

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Any info on running two - so four tuners?
Had my 2 arrived today as expected.....
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

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Had my 2 arrived today as expected.....
Is it a bad thing?
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

My pair of these arrived today. Getting one card working was fine. Getting two cards (4 tuners) hasn't been quite so easy......

I'm working through the issues (had to clean out the old entries from my 3 TinyUSBs for a start), so hopefully I'll have some good news later on.

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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

Not looking good.

I can get either pair of tuners to work, but I can't get all 4 happening.

They seem like good strong tuners, but if I can't get 2 cards happening together they won't become my tuner of choice.

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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

Just wondering whether everyone is getting fast channel changing on all channels at all times. I'm getting ~2 sec channel changing on 7,9,10 but more often than not very slow channel changes for SBS (5 sec). I presume this is related to my signal strength but I haven't seen this variation with any of the other tuner cards I have used or tested recently.
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Re: Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

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Not looking good.

I can get either pair of tuners to work, but I can't get all 4 happening.

They seem like good strong tuners, but if I can't get 2 cards happening together they won't become my tuner of choice.

Justin
Is this more likely an issue with your mobo not likeing 2xPci-e tuners? Or have you had other PCI-e tuners working in 2 different slots?
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