Hauppauge HVR-2200 - What a fantastic PCIe Dual Digital TV Tuner

[Zilch]

Originally Posted by joebloggs9

Maybe the board (G35) does 50Hz over the VGA better than HDMI. Anyway I am glad that I can pretty much rule out the tuner. I am really happy with it - worth the money IMO.

I can flick it over to HDMI and test if you want. What channels are you having problems with?

[pawelg]

Originally Posted by purezerg

sigh, the card didnt work with vista SP1 with 8Gb of ram. I'm putting this card back on ebay. I kept getting green screen or loss of signal.

Just out of curiosity mate, what is it that you do on your rig to utilise even 50% of this memory?

[purezerg]

Originally Posted by pawelg

Just out of curiosity mate, what is it that you do on your rig to utilise even 50% of this memory?

it's my file/ftp/http/print server. the most important role is the file server. but it also serves as media extender to 2 xbox360. my workstation backup to MCE twice a day. 'my documents' folder is around 300Gb on a light week and up to 800Gb on a busy week.

[joebloggs9]

Originally Posted by Zilch

I can flick it over to HDMI and test if you want. What channels are you having problems with?

Thanks. It's mainly happening with 10 and 7 and usually at the end of the day. The thing is that I am pretty sure that it wasn't happening with the Avermerdia dual hybrid (when it was working). I loaded the new HVR-2200 drivers yesterday so maybe that will help. I also sometimes get similar stuttering when playing DVD's when panning. I have the optical drive set to DMA or whatever it is supposed to be.

[Zilch]

Originally Posted by joebloggs9

Thanks. It's mainly happening with 10 and 7 and usually at the end of the day. The thing is that I am pretty sure that it wasn't happening with the Avermerdia dual hybrid (when it was working). I loaded the new HVR-2200 drivers yesterday so maybe that will help. I also sometimes get similar stuttering when playing DVD's when panning. I have the optical drive set to DMA or whatever it is supposed to be.

7 & 10 HD both seem to work fine here, as does panning in standard and HD DVDs. Maybe you should do a BIOS factory reset (this will happen when you upgrade to 503 anyway!) just in case you have something weird set for the onboard graphics?

[saxnix]

Zilch - I just read your signature. Nice sense of humor.

[purezerg]

so any managed to get HVR-2200 to work above 4Gb ram yet?

[Mark1]

How's everyone so far enjoying the 2200?

I'm still experiencing great results. Compared to my old, long gone Dvico's

Anyway, I just wanted to throw something out there, see if anyone can make a comment.
As most will know, I started the original thread about how my ex-Dvico PCIe card was having a problem with displaying white frames on channel 9. It wasn't really watchable and it annoyed the hell out of me because it was so obviously some technical problem with the card and its ability to handle the stream.
Now, what is it with channel 9
With the Hauppauge (god bless its soul), sometimes I get slow channel changes ONLY when changing to channel 9 (SD & HD) - obviously only when changing from a different channel (ie, not from 9SD to 9HD using the guide and vice versa). We're talking 5-7 seconds - compared to 1 sec for all other channels.
Don't get me wrong, once the channel has changed and its up and running, no problems what so ever with the picture or sound - stable as anything. Thats why I still love my new card
I think some other users have noted slow changes to some channels too.
I don't think its heat related at all - I also don't think its the tuner cards fault. It may be guide related perhaps (I use FreeEPG). I haven't noticed it before since getting the new card about a month ago, so maybe it has to do with 9 recently starting alternate programming on 9HD (like 7HD and 10HD), or some other change they have made. Look, maybe its having trouble starting the channel due to signal, but why once it has changed is the picture smooth-as with no sign of any loss of signal??
Like I said, still VERY happy with the card. In my book this is still only a minor issue I can certainly live with (with what I have been through with other cards over the past year).

Any ideas?

[DVB4U]

Originally Posted by Mark1

I don't think its heat related at all - I also don't think its the tuner cards fault. It may be guide related perhaps (I use FreeEPG). I haven't noticed it before since getting the new card about a month ago, so maybe it has to do with 9 recently starting alternate programming on 9HD (like 7HD and 10HD), or some other change they have made. Look, maybe its having trouble starting the channel due to signal, but why once it has changed is the picture smooth-as with no sign of any loss of signal??
Like I said, still VERY happy with the card. In my book this is still only a minor issue I can certainly live with (with what I have been through with other cards over the past year).

Any ideas?

It is definitely not content or guide related as I don't have the slow channel change with other cards. I'd say it is a specific driver/hardware issue.

[logifuse]

The only issue I had with slow channel change was related to my video card drivers. With certain drivers, the new channel would stagger for a period before becoming steady. The actual channel change was still fast though. When I changed to my current drivers, channel change has been solid.

Justin

[Mark1]

Originally Posted by logifuse

The only issue I had with slow channel change was related to my video card drivers. With certain drivers, the new channel would stagger for a period before becoming steady. The actual channel change was still fast though. When I changed to my current drivers, channel change has been solid.

Justin

I know I should upgrade my graphice drivers, but I am scared I will break DivX/xVID playback (which has been an issue others have commented on).
You have an onboard series 7 Nvidia (is that what the 7050PV is? motherboard with onboard?). I have a 7600GS, running 163.69 drivers. What version forceware are you using?

Although I'm not convinced about graphics drivers being the problem. ALL other channels change to in rapid time - always - with no real noticable stagger period (ever so slight, for a fraction). But thats normal for digital, even with a STB.

Last night I was flicking between 7, 9SD, 10SD, 10HD, 9HD, ABC1, 7, 9SD etc randomly.
When you go from 9SD to 9HD (or vice versa) there is never any delay, because I guess its something like the frequency is already locked on to (just a novice guess).
But, the delay being experienced from other channels to either of the 9's is intermittent. Sometimes it changes as normal, sometimes delay. To describe the delay: Mostly, you push the button, half a second or so later the Vista round animated thinking logo comes and thats where most of the delay occurs before the channel changes.
That is why I am suss, and not sure what is causing it. Its odd that its 9 for me again, that leans torwards some constant with 9. Either related to their slight frequency offset difference or maybe it is my signal thats contributing this time - too weak OR too strong?

Maybe the guys from New Magic could jump in here and offer some advice.
Thanks in advance.

[logifuse]

Originally Posted by Mark1

I know I should upgrade my graphice drivers, but I am scared I will break DivX/xVID playback (which has been an issue others have commented on).
You have an onboard series 7 Nvidia (is that what the 7050PV is? motherboard with onboard?). I have a 7600GS, running 163.69 drivers. What version forceware are you using?

Although I'm not convinced about graphics drivers being the problem. ALL other channels change to in rapid time - always - with no real noticable stagger period (ever so slight, for a fraction). But thats normal for digital, even with a STB.

I don't think your issue is the same as mine - I was more or less saying that I don't have the slow channel change issue.

As it is, I'm currently running 174.51 on my 7050PV (yes, it's onboard) and I'm running 174.70 on my 8500GT (my desktop PC). I'm going to try the 174.70s on my 7050PV today.

The AVI problem is pretty specific to the 169-173 drivers - I haven't seen it on any version of 174 drivers. Remember, the 174s are beta releases that are 9600/9800 specific, so using them isn't supported. Having said that, in my experience, they out perform previous releases and they have desktop resize. It's also an odd approach from Nvidia - they've always had a unified driver, so why they're not making these available for lower cards is anyone's guess.

I'm also using the nForce 18.07 release (Nvidia chipset on mobo) that popped up on Guru3d a couple of weeks back. I don't think it has made much (any?) difference.

Justin

[timble]

Does this card use the same DVB-T tuners as the Nova T 500 MCE?