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Old 3rd January 2006, 11:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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DVICO Dual issue and USB tuner co-operation?

Hi,

Well my MCE build has gone fairly well, still some issues to resolve, the main one being..

My GF is a channel hopper. When an ad break comes on she likes to flip to another channel, then another, and so on until she finds something she likes the look of. Then a couple of minutes later she'll flip back to the first channel. The problem is this quick changing frequently causes a 'no tv signal' error and events in the event log saying there has been a tv tuner malfunction. Killing ehshell.exe and restarting MCE via TGB wakes up the tuners again and all is OK until the same sequence is followed. Using the latest non-beta DVICO drivers, MCE2005 all patched up to date.

So..

(a) is there a way to cure this?

and given the dual tuner card works fine for recording and I sometimes want to record two channels and watch a third, and have no PCI slots left,

(b) does this happen with other tuners such as the DVICO USB tuner?

and

(c) Will the DVICO Dual card play nicely together in MCE with a USB tuner?

I'm thinking I could add a USB tuner, then use the tuner priority tool to set it to be priority for Live TV, making the two tuners on the dual card as 1st and 2nd priority for recorded TV only.



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Re: DVICO Dual issue and USB tuner co-operation?

Hi,

I'm using a DNTV Live! twin USB in my MCE machine.
http://www.digitalnow.com.au/product.../twindvbt.html

The only thing you have to think about is if you wish to wake the PC from S3 is the current draw using these tuners. Mine wakes OK with both plugged in and the MCE remote on a PSU with 2A +5VSB.

I like them because of the size

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Re: DVICO Dual issue and USB tuner co-operation?

Hi,

I ahve the Divoc Dual Digital tuner card and was having a similar problem when changing chanels. Would BSOD and show tuner fault i e eventlog.

Resolved by downloading and installing the USB hotfix on the divco site found here
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Down...twareDVBT.aspx
might be worth a try.

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Re: DVICO Dual issue and USB tuner co-operation?

Hmm, that hotfix is supposed to be included in the 3.2 driver package which I installed. I guess trying it won't harm though...


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Hi,

I ahve the Divoc Dual Digital tuner card and was having a similar problem when changing chanels. Would BSOD and show tuner fault i e eventlog.

Resolved by downloading and installing the USB hotfix on the divco site found here
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Down...twareDVBT.aspx
might be worth a try.

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Re: DVICO Dual issue and USB tuner co-operation?

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Hi,

Well my MCE build has gone fairly well, still some issues to resolve, the main one being..

My GF is a channel hopper. When an ad break comes on she likes to flip to another channel, then another, and so on until she finds something she likes the look of. Then a couple of minutes later she'll flip back to the first channel. The problem is this quick changing frequently causes a 'no tv signal' error and events in the event log saying there has been a tv tuner malfunction. Killing ehshell.exe and restarting MCE via TGB wakes up the tuners again and all is OK until the same sequence is followed. Using the latest non-beta DVICO drivers, MCE2005 all patched up to date.

So..

(a) is there a way to cure this?
Yes my friend: Dump her

Kidding.. I still find that the hardest vision of a TV viewer find is that live TV doesnt need to, or should exist anymore.

Try and get her into the habit of recording EVERYTHING that she has interest in, then sit and watch that and FF'd/ skip thru commercials.

Unless of course she has too much time and she likes commercials, if thats the case see first point in post
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Re: DVICO Dual issue and USB tuner co-operation?

Ah, it's not that simple, it's not things she's interested enough to record, it's idle flicking, usually while waiting for something else (dinner, another drink, whatever). Just idle channel surfing. And to be fair, it's surely not beyond MCE to match the capabilities of any $20 VCR without crashing.

Stability is the one thing I hope for with Vista MCE, I'd trade any new features if it was just reliable.


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Re: DVICO Dual issue and USB tuner co-operation?

I have recreated the same problem with the Dvico PCI Plus. will let you know if i find i solution. i think we may have to just wait for a driver fix. perhaps we should let them know of the issue. Dvico are ment to be good when it comes to listening to their users
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Re: DVICO Dual issue and USB tuner co-operation?

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Ah, it's not that simple, it's not things she's interested enough to record, it's idle flicking, usually while waiting for something else (dinner, another drink, whatever). Just idle channel surfing. And to be fair, it's surely not beyond MCE to match the capabilities of any $20 VCR without crashing.

Stability is the one thing I hope for with Vista MCE, I'd trade any new features if it was just reliable.
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Is is though, you just say "things just arnt working between us..."..
no, only kidding dude

No honestly, man we have Zero flicking in the house now. Live TV doesnt exist what so ever. Mind you, its taken quite a while to get us there. But Im happy we are finally there. No Live TV simply rocks.

I really think alot of hardware issues are based around hardware homework. To be honest, all my setups are totally rock solid now. The only issue Ive experienced for the last year has been guide related or flickering with the nvidia driver set. I was never a fan though of the cheaper TV tuner cards. I found Hauppague had better BDA support for DVB-T without hacks and thats why I fell in love with the cards. Im sure with enough homework and research you will be able to iron out the bugs. I now run 3 tuners in my main PC and will be adding a 4th soon-ish.

My GF would shoot to kill if my system wasnt rock solid, and now we have 3 MCE's in the house (just about to upgrade to 4) and they are all very stable.
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Re: DVICO Dual issue and USB tuner co-operation?

I had the exact same problem awhile ago.

There were a number of things that I tried to fix it, and they were:

(1) Completely remove all the DVICO software AND run the driver uninstall from the utility, shut down system, remove card, restart system, install the 3.2 drivers (3.3Beta1 is out now), shut down, install card, reboot and wait for the drivers to install.

(2) The other thing I did was make sure my nForce 6600GT drivers were up to the latest version of MCE supported drivers, and to update my nForce2 Motherboard drivers (although I have since had to revert to the old IDE drivers to fix a DVD drive issue)

(3) This one might be the killer - make sure my Virus software was configured to exclude the Record folder, and the temporary video cache folder where the PVR stuff is set. Since you are saving files to disk for jog/shuttle in PVR, if Virus Software is scanning this while it writes, you are going to load up your system somewhat.

It seemed to me that the time it took to change channels was a big factor in when the error occured. If the system is heavily loaded, it was more likely to happen. Now I can change channels constantly without a crash. The only problems I have now are when the missus decides she wants to take focus back to the PC screen so she can buy something on eBay.


go figure.



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