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Question Intermittent Freezing on Recorded TV

I have recorded a bit of television in the last few days since getting my HTPC and I have noticed when playing it back that I am getting intermittent freezing in the recording.

I am running a DVICO Fusion Dual 4 Digital Tuner with the following setup:

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Any ideas I want might be causing this? I would have thought that the system has plenty of power to record. Is it the tuner card?

This might not be the right thread if not can it please be moved the right thread.

EDIT: It doesn't freeze when watching TV live.

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Re: Intermittent Freezing on Recorded TV

A couple of things to check:

Do the recordings play back in WMP OK?

What's the CPU utilization when the freezes occur?


The fact that live TV works OK suggests that it's not a tuner problem, but one of the tuners may be down on signal & you may not be seeing it on live TV because the recording/live TV priorities of the 2 tuners are reversed.

After all of that, my chief suspect would be your wireless network card. Try doing some recordings & playback with it disabled in device manager (or better still, removed) & see if it occurs again.

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Re: Intermittent Freezing on Recorded TV

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A couple of things to check:

Do the recordings play back in WMP OK?

What's the CPU utilization when the freezes occur?


The fact that live TV works OK suggests that it's not a tuner problem, but one of the tuners may be down on signal & you may not be seeing it on live TV because the recording/live TV priorities of the 2 tuners are reversed.

After all of that, my chief suspect would be your wireless network card. Try doing some recordings & playback with it disabled in device manager (or better still, removed) & see if it occurs again.

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Will try those things tomorrow morning as I am currently busy painting my new house so won't get a chance till tomorrow. Only came home for tea right now .

Where do I find signal strength? When I move I am having a very good digital antenna installed but I don't think it is too bad here but it probably could be better.

EDIT: I just had a second to do a quick check to see how it played in WMP and it worked perfect. So what does this indicate? I will still test the other things later.

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Re: Intermittent Freezing on Recorded TV

I recorded with the wireless disabled but it didn't make any difference. I didn't take it completely out as I didn't have time to.
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Re: Intermittent Freezing on Recorded TV

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Where do I find signal strength? When I move I am having a very good digital antenna installed but I don't think it is too bad here but it probably could be better.
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Re: Intermittent Freezing on Recorded TV

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Okay I have download the program and run it and I am going to take a stab and say it looks like the signal strength is the issue.

Am I right? Sorry I couldn't get it to upload the log file.

2 BDA devices found.
using Bluebird, BDA Tuner1


# signal locked = N present = N strength = 8790 quality = 44
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 8790 quality = 44
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 8790 quality = 44
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 8890 quality = 44
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 8790 quality = 44
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 8790 quality = 44
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 8890 quality = 44
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 8790 quality = 44
# signal locked = Y present = Y strength = 8790 quality = 81


================================================== ==========================

Frequency (Scanned) = 184500kHz
Frequency (Actual) = 184625kHz

Transmitter Name = WIN Digital

Channel Name LCN SID Vid Aud PMT
-------------------------------------------------------------------
WIN HD , 80, 10, 129, A8001, 176 #
WIN TELEVISION , 8, 1, 33, 36, 32 # Teletext=47

# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = 8790 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5800 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5800 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5730 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5800 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5650 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5750 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5700 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5750 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5750 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5800 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5700 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5780 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5730 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5830 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5800 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5780 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5750 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5800 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5730 Quality = 100%

# Average quality on 184500kHz = 100%

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# signal locked = Y present = Y strength = -4930 quality = 100


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Frequency (Scanned) = 191500kHz
Frequency (Actual) = 226500kHz

Transmitter Name = ABC Hobart

Channel Name LCN SID Vid Aud PMT
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ABC HDTV , 20, 624, 2314, A2315, 258 # Teletext=2316
ABC TV Hobart , 2, 625, 512, 650, 256 # Teletext=576
ABC TV Hobart AC3 , , 625, 512, A660, 256 #
ABC2 , 21, 626, 2307, 2308, 257 # Teletext=2310
ABC TV , 22, 627, 512, 650, 259 # Teletext=576
ABC DiG Radio , 200, 630, 0, 2317, 260 #
ABC DiG Jazz , 201, 631, 0, 2318, 261 #

# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4850 Quality = 97%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4140 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4880 Quality = 99%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4610 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4980 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4850 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4900 Quality = 99%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4610 Quality = 99%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4610 Quality = 99%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4610 Quality = 98%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4390 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4880 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4850 Quality = 97%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4140 Quality = 97%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4140 Quality = 97%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4140 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5000 Quality = 99%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4610 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -4880 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5100 Quality = 100%

# Average quality on 191500kHz = 99%

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# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# Nothing found on 198500kHz, trying +125
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
, trying -125
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
# signal locked = N present = N strength = 80000 quality = 0
, Nothing found

# signal locked = Y present = Y strength = -5900 quality = 100


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Frequency (Scanned) = 205500kHz
Frequency (Actual) = 543500kHz

Transmitter Name = SBS NETWORK

Channel Name LCN SID Vid Aud PMT
-------------------------------------------------------------------
SBS HD , 30, 848, 102, 103, 1024 # Teletext=41
SBS , 3, 849, 161, 81, 1025 # Teletext=41
SBS NEWS , 33, 850, 162, 83, 1026 #
SBS 2 , 31, 851, 161, 81, 1032 # Teletext=41
SBS RADIO 1 , 38, 862, 0, 201, 1027 #
SBS RADIO 2 , 39, 863, 0, 202, 1028 #

# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6000 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6000 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6050 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5950 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6050 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5450 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6050 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6000 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -6030 Quality = 100%

# Average quality on 205500kHz = 100%

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# signal locked = Y present = Y strength = -5550 quality = 100


================================================== ==========================

Frequency (Scanned) = 212500kHz
Frequency (Actual) = 212500kHz

Transmitter Name = Southern Cross Television

Channel Name LCN SID Vid Aud PMT
-------------------------------------------------------------------
SCTV Hobart , 6, 2306, 625, 626, 624 # Teletext=627
SCTV - HD , 60, 2338, 3611, A3612, 3610 # Teletext=627
MyTalk , 66, 2370, 3621, 3622, 3620 #

# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5480 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5550 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5550 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5480 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5480 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5550 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5580 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5450 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5430 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5280 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5450 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5450 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5480 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5530 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5550 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5550 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5580 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5550 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5530 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5550 Quality = 100%

# Average quality on 212500kHz = 100%

================================================== ==========================


# signal locked = Y present = Y strength = -5250 quality = 100


================================================== ==========================

Frequency (Scanned) = 219500kHz
Frequency (Actual) = 219500kHz

Transmitter Name = Tasmanian Digital TV

Channel Name LCN SID Vid Aud PMT
-------------------------------------------------------------------
TDT - SD , 5, 2071, 657, 658, 656 # Teletext=659
TDT - HD , 50, 2103, 3511, A3512, 3510 # Teletext=659

# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5250 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5230 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5180 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5250 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5250 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5130 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5280 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5250 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5280 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5180 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5330 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5430 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5330 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5250 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5280 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5250 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5380 Quality = 96%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -3900 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5100 Quality = 100%
# Locked = Y Present = Y Strength = -5250 Quality = 100%

# Average quality on 219500kHz = 99%
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Seems that it is worse on the second tuner too.
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Re: Intermittent Freezing on Recorded TV

Yeah, it seems borderline, but scanchannelsbda can give wildly different results on different cards, so don't put all your eggs in the signal basket.

How much lower does the signal strength on the second tuner seem BTW? At least comparing your 2 tuners is like comparing apples with apples, so a difference between them is significant.

It's still worth trying the other things I suggested earlier (in case it isn't signal).

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Re: Intermittent Freezing on Recorded TV

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Yeah, it seems borderline, but scanchannelsbda can give wildly different results on different cards, so don't put all your eggs in the signal basket.

How much lower does the signal strength on the second tuner seem BTW? At least comparing your 2 tuners is like comparing apples with apples, so a difference between them is significant.

It's still worth trying the other things I suggested earlier (in case it isn't signal).

Cheers,

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The second tuner dropped between 5% to 20%.

I did try the other things (other than checking the CPU usage when it is playing up) but it made no difference. Wireless card didn't make any difference, It did play perfect in WMP
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A couple of things to check:

Do the recordings play back in WMP OK?

What's the CPU utilization when the freezes occur?


The fact that live TV works OK suggests that it's not a tuner problem, but one of the tuners may be down on signal & you may not be seeing it on live TV because the recording/live TV priorities of the 2 tuners are reversed.

After all of that, my chief suspect would be your wireless network card. Try doing some recordings & playback with it disabled in device manager (or better still, removed) & see if it occurs again.

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1. The CPU utilization when freezing is between 8 - 15% and this is why it was also recordimg TV as well.

2. The wireless being disabled seems to make no difference to the recording.

3. I just tried playing the recordings in WMP and it made no difference at all.

4. It seems that signal strength is anywhere from in the 40% area to 60% which I would believe to be quite low. I am sure this will change when we move as I will have a proper out door antenna setup but I am unsure how I can improve this in the mean time as I only have indoor antennas.

I have also noticed that live tv is also playing up now. Not all the time but enough.

Does this help with working out the issue?
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