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I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card
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Old 6th December 2006, 09:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

I have a fast PC with PCI-e x1 slots (THey seem quite tiny) and of course 4 PCI slots.

I want to buy a Hybrid TV tuner card that will receive analogue and SD and HD Digital in OZ
and one that will display it well and record it well.

Is there any advantage in getting a PCI-e one with such a card. I do not want a dual HD digital tuner card.

One other question. Can all prblems that may arise with a card such as lip sync probelms etc be solved by software for all tuner cards and do all HD-TV tuner cards display an equally high quality picture when showing live TV and recorded TV
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Old 6th December 2006, 09:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

http://www.digitalnow.com.au/dvbtcards.html Analouge & Digital, PCI-e board, however I dont think it will do analouge part in MCE. But will outside of it.
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Re: I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

I believe a hybrid digital/analog card can do both digital and analog tv in MCE but it's an either or situation, it can't do both. If you go digital the analog part can (by hacking mce) work to display foxtel input and similar analog sources. It would be great if MCE could accept Digital TV and Analog TV as other software seems capable of doing but unfortunately that is not the case and is unlikely to happen either.
As an aside why do you not want a dual digital, the Digitalnow Pcie dual digital is hybrid with two tuners that can each be either digital or analog.
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Re: I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

If you have the ability, i do not understand why you would NOT get a PCI-e Tuner.

As said above, you can then get a dual hybrid SD/HD tuner, that should sort you out for the future too.

PCI-e can handle greater data throughput. Its the next step technology. go with it.
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Re: I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

I have a PCI-e PC but need only a single digital tuner and single analogue tuner for occassional recording of Tv for viewing later. it is not used for viewing live TV at same time and aren't PCI-e cards only available dual digital.

I have not seen a single digital PCI-e card I think.
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Old 7th December 2006, 01:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

Hi Firewire,

There are only two PCIe TV Tuners available in Australia, that I am aware of. The Digital Now card mentioned above, and the LifeView PCIe X1 MST-T2A2.

The LifeView PCIe X1 is Dual Digital / Dual Analogue card (effectively two hybrid tuners in one PCIe). Various combinations up to four live video streams, can be used simultaneously outside of MCE (using LifeView MVP software).
In MCE you can use either: single digital / single analogue / dual Digital / dual Analouge. As Mysteron said above, it is an either/or situation with Analogue and Digital TV streams in MCE. If you have the option to use PCIe it would probably be a good investment, even if you don't want to use both tuners now, as it will give you room to expand your usage in the future. This does depend on how much you are willing to spend though!
This PCIe card is MCE Certified in DVB-T Digital, but not in Analogue. Analogue, even dual analogue does work in MCE, but it can be jerky, and recording can be a problem due to the increased demands placed on the CPU. To be totally MCE compliant in both Digital and Analogue the PCIe needs to have hardware encoding, in order to reduce the load on the CPU. They are available as Dual Digital/Dual Analogue (2xHybrid tuners) as but they are expensive!

Edit: I am in the process of testing a single digital, single analogue (s-video & composite video), PCIe with hardware encoding at present... so far so good!
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Re: I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

GG can you give more details of your role with that card and details of the card and when for sale.

Perhaps you can PM me.
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Old 8th December 2006, 08:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

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One other question. Can all prblems that may arise with a card such as lip sync probelms etc be solved by software for all tuner cards and do all HD-TV tuner cards display an equally high quality picture when showing live TV and recorded TV
No problem answered in PM.... re: you second question - my understanding is that lip sync promlems, or jerky picture (dropped frames) etc. can be caused by either software issues, hardware issues, or very commonly reception issues. One suggestion is to turn on DxVA in the software setting (if your software supports this), video acceleration, which can help resolve these issues. You may also need to look at improving your Digital reception....
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Re: I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

sorry to hijack but i bought a DTV USB tuner (haugpauge analog took my last pci slot) i wouldnt mind using the pci-e slot for neatness but i only need a single DTV tuner (never found much to watch on FTA anyways) whats the best option considering i only need 1 DTV tuner no radio no analog but at worst i would not mind using hardware encoding rather then software and if it is a duel DTV tuner (no analog) that would be fine also.

best card?
best price?
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Re: I have PCI-e board should I get a PCI-e TV Tuner Card

As far as I know there are only dual digital / dual analogue (hybrid tuners x 2) PCIe TV Tuner cards on the market in Australia at present.

G.D.B. International is hoping to launch a new LifeView PCIe card - LR824T2A2M - early 2007. It will be single digital (SD & HD); single analogue; PCIe with hardware encoding for smooth analogue function in MCE. Price point should be sub $200, TBA.

Feel free to PM me in the new year for more details.

Edit: No straight dual digital PCIe TV Tuners around at the moment that I'm aware of.
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