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Old 28th November 2007, 07:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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The iPhone Hype Exploded!

Just read an article comparing the iPhone to your average Windows Mobile phone. For those planning to sell their soul for one... think again!

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Re: The iPhone Hype Exploded!

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Just read an article comparing the iPhone to your average Windows Mobile phone. For those planning to sell their soul for one... think again!

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None of that bothers me in the slightest, I don't want it for music, video, pictures, camera, internet or email. I want it because its the best looking mobile phone with a great address book.
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Re: The iPhone Hype Exploded!

A heretic amongst us. This guy criticised an iDevice!

Hardly surprising really. For all the good work Apple does in it's designs, so much of it is fancy interfaces then they ruin it by proprietry standards. Look at the iPod, everyone's got one because of the hype and what is a very good interface, but it's restricted to iTunes and DRM.

I'll be avioding the iPhone like I avoid the iPod...
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Old 28th November 2007, 08:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: The iPhone Hype Exploded!

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Hardly surprising really. For all the good work Apple does in it's designs, so much of it is fancy interfaces then they ruin it by proprietry standards. Look at the iPod, everyone's got one because of the hype and what is a very good interface, but it's restricted to iTunes and DRM.
Well, to be clear the iPod is not at all restricted to iTunes or DRM.

If you want to buy digital music for your iPod online, then historically you have been restricted to iTunes and hence DRM. But that's not so much of a restriction - the iTunes store has about the best range of music of any online store (though the advantage is dwindling every day, of course). Also, the DRM is easily removed if you wish to do so. You're still left with AAC files which are less widely supported than MP3, say, but getting more widely supported all the time it seems. The DRM is proprietry, but AAC/M4A is not.

And now it's even less of a restriction... iTunes is selling a bunch of music without DRM (though still in AAC format), and other mainstream stores are starting to sell music in unprotected MP3 format, which will work great on an iPod.

The only "restriction" I felt from using an iPod for several years was when I set up Media Centre and wanted it to play my music collection, a bunch of which was M4A files in AAC format. There are of course ways to get those files (even DRM'd M4P files) to play in Media Centre, but they just don't work as cleanly as MP3 or WMA. I could convert them, but the potential resulting

I'm not Apply fanboy... I originally bought an iPod because, at the time, it was the only serious player in town (no pun intended ). Three iPods later I'm still happy. Now there is some serious competition, but no compelling reason to switch.

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Re: The iPhone Hype Exploded!

I have had my iPhone since the release and have been very happy with it. It’s has a very stable and responsive OS hasn’t missed a beat the recent update 1.1.2 has fixed a few niggling issues one being carrier messages not being received, but overall It’s just a great looking phone and the best of all it just works. I have been that impressed with my iPhone I bought a New iPod nano for my brother for christmas

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There are always easy ways to get past some of the DRM/iTunes issues The current apps for the iPhone are growing and once Apple release there SDK the iPhone OS could become like the new Google OS Called Android and have the apps open platform

I love a shiny UI

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Re: The iPhone Hype Exploded!

I don't own an iPhone (but I do have an iPod) - I wouldn't take that article seriously, the guy obviously doesn't research enough or even use the software properly before writing his article.

He talks about the DRM and lack of cover images for coverflow if you don't purchase your music from the iTunes store. This is blatantly wrong, as you can rip your own CD's or just drag any plain vanilla MP3 files into iTunes, and iTunes and your iPod/iPhone will play them - and you can also drag cover images, either scanned/downloaded or just straight from a web site (eg. Amazon) into iTunes and you've got cover images (no issue at all) - I wouldn't even call that a work-around, it's a feature.

And, as DingoJunio said - if you do want to buy music from iTunes, you can choose non-DRM tracks.
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Re: The iPhone Hype Exploded!

It's poorly researched particularly on that point, but there are 7 pages of the article and he does raise some good points.

However, I've used an MS based phone for a couple of years and I despise it. A lot of the software is amateurish, the inteface itself is a nightmare, and it's not that stable. Admittedly MS has to build their software to be installed on a myriad of devices with differing specs which means externally written drivers which might introduce problems.

Thats why Apple make such good products. Things are locked in to the single specification and they write the software to suit. It makes it just that much more stable (as well as being Linux based).

The things that annoy me and would stop me buying an Apple iPhone.

1. The Wife (she doesn't annoy me, she'd just stop me buying one)
2. lack of AD2P for wireless streaming (massive oversight)
3. lack of MMS (I never use now it but I want to be able to)
4. lack of video recording capabilities (could be useful)
5. inability to install 3rd party apps legally

As far as I know, all these items will (maybe some have already been) addressed by software updates and the release of a development SDK.

Once those issues are addressed (and I can buy one here) I would definitely consider upgrading from my 6300.
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Re: The iPhone Hype Exploded!

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He talks about the DRM and lack of cover images for coverflow if you don't purchase your music from the iTunes store. This is blatantly wrong, as you can rip your own CD's or just drag any plain vanilla MP3 files into iTunes, and iTunes and your iPod/iPhone will play them - and you can also drag cover images, either scanned/downloaded or just straight from a web site (eg. Amazon) into iTunes and you've got cover images (no issue at all) - I wouldn't even call that a work-around, it's a feature.
And of course iTunes will also provide cover art for albums you didn't buy from the iTunes store (if the album is available on the iTunes store). And the quality is usually very good (usually 600x600) - much better than you get from WMP.

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Re: The iPhone Hype Exploded!

oh and people that new "fabled" more scratch resitant service on itouch. ipod and iphone. Yeah it scratches like a biatch. The company I work for service everything apple and they said they pretty much love it but only because they can service and repair it themselves, otherwise it is too closed and is built to last a year to pretty much ensure the purchasing of additional years warranties.

Same goes for pc in regards to warranties though
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Re: The iPhone Hype Exploded!

Personally I had big issues with Windows Mobile based phones right up until recently when my O2 XDA Atom met an untimely end. The fact is that having gone back to a Treo but with WM6 as the OS has meant the Atom's demise was the best thing that's happened to me (phone wise) in a long time. The new phone (Treo 750) is really stable and I have to admit I find the fact that I almost never need my stylus is a blessing. I used to find text messaging a right pain in the rear but now I can send texts in seconds.

Personally I'm over installing all sorts of software on it for all sorts of reasons and have just added a few essentials to make it a bit more user friendly. I have also stuck with reputable software vendors like SPB and such wherever possible to avoid the amateurish stuff. I have no real idea what the iPhone would be like but I tend to agree with some of what's in the article even if much of it is of no consequence to me. I tend to think the IPhone would probably frustrate me in some areas though so I'm quite happy with what I've got.
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