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Old 16th August 2008, 01:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

My configuration:

desktop with 2 HDD. (sd0 and sd1), boot occurs from sd0

Vista on sd0 with 9 other Linux 0S
Xp on sd1 with 4 other Linux 0S

All working beautifully until yesterday

What happened:

Installed Linux Elive OS in MBR on sd0 as usual

At the reboot after the install, Xp + a few other Linux OS didn´t boot anymore

Tried a few things without result.

Changed BIOS to boot from sd1 and the GRUB boot screen appeared again. When choosing Vista to boot I got XP instead of Vista.

At the end i then decided to re-install the old Grub from a working Linux partition (sd0,10)

Everything working as before without Elive that didn´t want to boot anymore. No concern for me. All other OS working. All ok? No.

The problem

After this little debacle, I tried to install several other OS on sd1 on other partitions without any luck. First I got EXT3 file errors. I wiped all partitions, reformatted and tried again. EXT3 ok but now the OS install sticks at 94% at configuring hardware.
I have tried several other distros on other cd´s but always the same error.


I do not know where to look anymore to solve this.
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Old 16th August 2008, 04:04 PM   #2 (permalink)

 
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Re: Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

Sounds like your drive might be dying.

I'd boot up from the other drive and fdisk the whole of sd1 to a single partiton then put a filesystem on it. See if it formats. Then fdisk it again to whatever partition structure you want and try an install. check your cables as well. Make sure both power and data are pluggin in properly on the drive and motherboard.

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Re: Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

Thanks for replying Arkay.

I still trying to find a way out without wiping everything because all the other OS on this disk and the other disk are still working ok, XP and Vista included.
I am just baffled why it sticks at this 94% with installing a new OS.

Strange though. When you look at the fdisk -l output, sda and sdb both have an asterisk indicating a boot sector. I do not think sdb should have one at all since I have always used sda to boot from. I am thinking that during the Elive install something got written in the sdb bootsector as well (xp).

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x06c706c7

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 4079 32764536 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 4080 5610 12288000 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda3 5611 19457 111226027+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 5611 6629 8185086 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 6630 6884 2048256 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7 6885 7904 8193118+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda8 7905 9051 9213246 83 Linux
/dev/sda9 9052 10262 9727326 83 Linux
/dev/sda10 10263 11537 10241406 83 Linux
/dev/sda11 * 11538 12876 10755486 83 Linux
/dev/sda12 12877 14278 11261533+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda13 14279 15808 12289693+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda14 15809 17402 12803773+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda15 17403 19457 16506756 83 Linux

Disk /dev/sdb: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x2d1c2d1b

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 2550 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 2551 4207 13309852+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdb3 4208 5645 11550735 83 Linux
/dev/sdb4 5646 30401 198852570 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 5646 14557 71585608+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb6 14558 22319 62348233+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb7 27582 28258 5437971 83 Linux
/dev/sdb8 28259 28969 5711076 83 Linux
/dev/sdb9 28970 29636 5357646 83 Linux
/dev/sdb10 29637 30401 6144831 83 Linux
/dev/sdb11 22320 22898 4650786 83 Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order
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Re: Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

I'd probably print out the entire partiton table, then blow it away and recreate it.

I've done that before and all the data has been intact providing you put in all the partition boundaries correctly you won't break anything. That can have the effect of fixing the partition table which is possibly what is wrong in the first place?

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Re: Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

Copying all the stuff with Acronis right now.

Pity about this Elive OS. Looks really nice, different from what I have seen from others.
But great looks doesn't mean anything.

I also had a few problems with my Sony dvd drive lately. Opened it yesterday but couldn't clean it. Too much work to take it apart.
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Re: Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

Back in business. After copying the whole disk, in a last desperate effort before the big jump, I wiped all partitions on sdb except the XP one. Reformatted the freshly created space in new partitions and I mananged to install an OS.

I would like to give ELIVE another go but I do not want to write it into the bootloader for the obvious reason. How would I go about that?
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Re: Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

Most installers provide the option to not install grub. Maybe take a closer look at the installer?

If I'm doing multiple boots like you I make the first primary partition as small as possible and install grub and menu.lst in there. I then edit that file manually any time I install a new OS and I never let the distro install it's own version of grub. Has worked for me in the past.

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Re: Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

Hi Arkay,

Yeah, I re-installed Elive without installing it in MBR. Then I installed OpenGeu in the next partition which picked up the Elive partition and everything is sweet.

You should give this Elive a look one day on a spare pc. I am using the free beta.
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Re: Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

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I would like to give ELIVE another go but I do not want to write it into the bootloader for the obvious reason. How would I go about that?
How about running it out of a VM? VirtualBox works for me. Or am I missing something?

BTW, saw you post about ELIVE, had a look, liked the pretties, and have it running out of VirtualBox now. My boot OS/ Distro is Ubuntu.

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Re: Linux Elive OS causes install nightmare

Guiguy:

Running Elive in Vmware is ok but you loose the main advantage of this OS, it is fast as lightning installed on the hdd.

When it works, this is.

I have just ran into another problem. After a reboot it now boots in console mode and when it stops it asks for login and password: when I put in these it remains in command line. What could be the command to start it from command line?
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