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Linksys DMA2100/2200 Installation Tips and Tricks

This post is intended as a rough guide for those intending to implement a Linksys extender with their Vista Media Centre. It does not cover all aspects or issues but deals with the specific issues that confronted me in getting the most out of my DMA2200. Note that my MCE machine was updated with Vista SP1 RTM prior to installation and there may be differences where a machine is not updated to the same level.

Setup.
Since setup appears to be very straightforward if you follow the provided directions I will not repeat them all here. The only points I will make are that I believe it is probably important to close the ehome interface on your MCE machine before connecting the extender as on mine, it set it up before I even installed the software provided by Linksys. If this happens it doesn't really seem to matter as I installed the Linksys software after without any apparent problems. The installation instructions seem to say that you need to run windows update post installation but on my machine (possibly because of SP1) it found no updates.

For the record my DMA2200 is hard wired with cat5 cable so unfortunately I cannot answer any questions in regard to wireless setup but suffice to say I'm not a big fan of wireless networking in any event.

Anyway, assuming you have managed to get the extender set up according to the instructions there are a number of issues to address:

Power Management
At this point in time I have disabled S3 suspend and my MCE machine is always on. My understanding is that if your NIC supports wake on ping then you will be able to enable S3 (or other) sleep but at this point I have not got around to investigating on my system. Unfortunately the DMA2200 does not support standard WOL or magic packet functionality. My hope is that a later firmware update might rectify this oversight.

see my update below

Watched Folders
Watched folders local to your MCE machine and to shares on some unsecured NAS devices are supported out of the box but you may have a bit of a job if you have shares on another Windows based machine which contain your media files. At inception, shares on my Western Digital My Book NAS were available but no windows shares could be browsed. The issue here is that there is no simple way to give the user account that the extender uses to log into windows rights on another windows box which requires windows authentication. Local files and folders do not suffer from this problem because the account surprisingly is created as an Administrator account but the problem is that you cannot easily work out its password and so it is far easier to set up a logon script allowing that account to impersonate another. In order to facilitate this impersonation you will need to create a batch file with contents similar to the code shown below.

Before creating this logon script file there are a couple of other matters to deal with. Firstly you must arm yourself with a valid windows user name and password which has rights to the shared folders on the machine containing the shares you want your extender to access. To simplify this will most likely be the account under which the MCE machine itself runs. Record this username and password for later use.

If your MCE machine is Vista Home Premium edition as mine is you will need access to another machine on your network which has access to the "Users and Groups" snap-in for Windows Management Console. This is not available under Vista Home premium but is available from any XP Pro or Vista Ultimate machine amongst others. (Edit: There is a shareware tool available here for use on Vista Home Premium which will allow access to user accounts.) The reason for this is that there is no way to access the user account which the extender logs on with other than with that snap-in in order to confirm its name and to insert the logon script filename. For the purposes of this guide I have described the Management Console under XP Pro but I imagine it will be quite similar under Vista Ultimate etc. Note that the most likely candidate for performing this task is the windows machine on which the shares reside as it will generally have access to everything you need.

In order to determine the account name, select "Computer Management" from the "Administrative Tools" folder under the Control Panel. From the "Actions" menu select "connect to another computer" and insert the network name of your MCE machine and click OK. You should now be connected to the MCE machine and any settings you change will be valid for that machine. In the left pane expand "Local Users and Groups" and click on Users. In the right pane you should see the list of valid users on your MCE machine. If you have only one extender the account you are looking for will most likely be named MCX1. For additional extenders the number on the end will increment. For the purposes of this guide henceforth we will assume the account name is MCX1. Right click on the MCX1 account icon and select properties. Select the profile tab at the top of the dialog and type mcx1.bat in the box labelled "Logon Script". Click OK and exit the management console.

On the MCE machine browse to the C: drive using Windows Explorer and create a folder called "netlogon". Share the folder with its default share name (netlogon) ensuring that you assign full control to "everyone".

Create a batch file called MCX1.BAT witgh code similar to that below and place it in the netlogon folder.

Code:
net use m: /delete /yes
net use m: "\\windowsmachinename\sharename" /user:username password
Note: In the above code make the following substitutions:
a. windowsmachinename = The network name of the machine containing the shares.
b. sharename = The name of the share to map to.
c. username = The name of a valid windows user account on the machine containing the shares.
d. password = The valid password of the account nominated.

For each share you should duplicate the two lines shown substituting the valid share name and allocating a unique and unused drive letter to map to. Personally I use M: for music, V: for Vide and P: for pictures just because it makes them easy to remember.

This file can be created using notepad or any standard text editor.

Once all of the above steps have been performed, restart the extender and you should now be able to add any mapped shares as watched folders for your media.

Note that if your media shares contain numerous video files of varying codecs you will find some limitations in the supported formats. DVR-MS, MPEG and Xvid are supported although Xvid with AC3 audio is not. I am told DivX files without AC3 audio can be made to work by changing their FourCC code to Xvid but at this stage I have not tested this. Strangely my preliminary testing seems to indicate some problem with WMV which I would have expected to work without issue. I will have to do some more research on this as time progresses.

My Movies
Whilst some users have reported issues with My Movies Version 2.42, these did not eventuate in my situation. What did become obvious for me though was that my dvd folders were located on my NAS device which has a mapping to V: on the MCE box. When I added these DVD folders using the collection manager I had browsed to the V: drive to locate them. Given that my extender did not have mappings to the NAS shares, (as said earlier there was no need for mappings on my NAS as the extender had no problems connecting to them) I needed to change the folder pointers in the underlying database to use UNC names to locate them. (i.e. Change "V:\foldername\" to "\\NAS\sharename\foldername\") In the end this was achieved fairly easily using the collection manager. After selecting one movie and changing the disk location to it's UNC equivalent, the tool then prompted me to change the location of all movies in the same folder. It is important to note though that the UNC cannot simply be typed in, you must use the browse tool to point to the folder under My Network places in order for it to prompt to change all movies in the database.

The one shortcoming of My Movies on the extender is that the DVD must be ripped to a compatible format in order for the Extender to play it. At this stage I am going with DVR-MS as it provides maximum compatibility without losing functionality. Later on I would like to find a way to compress these files but I would not be keen to go with Xvid until/unless Linksys eventually provide support for AC3 audio with Xvid and/or DivX.

If anyone else has any tips or tricks or recommendations please feel free to add them to this thread.

P.S. Many thanks to logifuse, merovingian, dgaust and shoreline for their input!
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Power Management - Good and Bad news

Power Management Update
First the good news:
Last night I decided to do some experimentation with WOL and to my surprise it worked straight up. That surprised me because most posts I have read said it doesn't but every test I did showed it was definitely the extender waking up the MCE box. At this stage I have not tested whether the login script actually gets run under these circumstances as I had to turn off my other windows box to make sure it didn't interfere with my tests but I will probably work that out over the weekend with some more testing.

...and inevitably... the bad:
OK I am really not sure that power management on the MCE box is to blame but unfortunately I found that after about every 15 minutes of watching recorded TV the extender would become disconnected from the MCE PC. Coincidentally my MCE box is set with MST to go into S3 standby after 15 minutes of idle time. Interestingly the MCE box itself does not go into standby at that time but locks up and becomes totally unresponsive to the point I have to power cycle it. Not even the reset button will make it reboot. This problem is quite disconcerting as there is no warning and when it happens the screen just immediately goes black with no message to explain for several minutes. After a time it does tell you that it has disconnected but you do need to have the patience of a saint.

Anyway, I will do some more research on this today and some more testing over the weekend and see what I can come up with.

P.S. So far investigations via TGB and Google are proving fairly fruitless. I have read about a number of isses but nothing particularly like mine. It may be worthwhile uninstalling SP1 in case my machine happens to be one of those afflicted by one or more of the touted driver problems.
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DHCP or Static IP
After setting up the extender I was finding that I occasionally got IP conflicts on my network. This is probably the result of all of my machines having static IP addresses and not having reserved these correctly on my router. (Too lazy I guess) In the end I assigned the DMA2200 a fixed IP address which can easily be done in the setup area of the extender. What you will need to be careful of though is that changing the IP address causes the registration with the MCE machine to be removed and the user account it connects under to be recreated. This means that the extender wants to run through the setup over again and once done, you will need to re-add the login script to the user account.
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Re: Linksys DMA2100/2200 Installation Tips and Tricks

Hi Guys

This may seem like a stupid question but does this extender work with an MCE2005 machine?

Everything I read seems to mention VMC

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This may seem like a stupid question but does this extender work with an MCE2005 machine?

Everything I read seems to mention VMC

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Re: Linksys DMA2100/2200 Installation Tips and Tricks

Hi,
Very informative mail . Thanks . I have been having lots of issues with the DMA 2100 in spite of having a 100 MB/Sec wired connection . The issue is mainly no audio in DVR-MS files ( intermittent ) . Sometimes I will get audio and sometimes no audio .Here is what I do

1) Rip the DVD to Hard drive using DVD HD FAB Decrypter with no compression .
2) This will create AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS .Go to VIDEO_TS and choose the VOB files that contain the main title .
3) Open VIDEO REDO TV suite and click on quickstream fix .. Then choose the VOB files mentioned in step 2 . Output this to a DVR-MS file and choose the enable filters and selec stream to chose the audio stream .
4) Once you have the DVR-MS created check it within MEdia Center . Everything is fine with Audio and Video

My PC is HP M9040N quad-core Q6660 CPU 2.4 GHZ with 3 GB RAM running Windows VISTA Home Premium .

5) Now the problem -- I play it on my Linksys DMA 2100 extender . Nice Video but no audio . Sometimes I will get Audio .

I am really baffled by the issue . Any help or feedback will be much appreciated .
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Re: Linksys DMA2100/2200 Installation Tips and Tricks

philzgr8, I'm sorry to hear about the idle problems, buit pleased to see that you have WoL working. Without WoL, these devices wouldn't get a guernsey in my household. I think I'm all out of reasons to not order one. Time to fire up the credit card.
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Re: Linksys DMA2100/2200 Installation Tips and Tricks

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I think I'm all out of reasons to not order one.
Sorry to say but I might have to give you a couple.

I had a bit of time to play with this thing over the weekend and I have to say I'm a bit disappointed by what I'm seeing. Unfortunately because of the nature of these things it's nearly impossible to work out the causes of my problems but I'll outline them here anyway just for the record.

1. Power Management
Because of my suspicions about SP1, I decided to remove it from the equation just for now and so a quick uninstall put the machine back to where it was about a week ago but with the extender still installed. Unfortunately this made no difference at all. Testing showed that after the scheduled standby timeout the extender would disconnect and the VMC machine would lock up requiring a cold boot. Increasing the idle timeout to a longer time simply delayed the lockup for that length of time confirming that there was a direct connection between the idle timeout and the lock-up. Interestingly I found that the MCE machine hung whether or not the extender was connected so I guess that raises a bit of a question as to the actual cause. Given that S3 standby was working before the extender was installed I am assuming that the windows extender updates are the cause but there is no way to be 100% sure. There is some possibility that some other windows update (possibly one of the pre-sp1 updates) is to blame. In the end, it seems that with my machine I will be forced to leave it running 24/7.

2. Picture Quality
This one has me totally baffled but I'll present the issue here for info purposes. I can play virtually any compatible media and/or recorded TV including HD without any real issues. The picture quality is fine and I get no audio loss or other such problems. What baffles me is that live TV suffers from pretty bad pixellation. The picture varies between perfect and really blocky to the point it's almost unwatchable. This I don't quite understand as the process of watching Live TV is surely not much different to watching recorded TV I would have thought. Anyway at this stage I haven't found a cure but I do notice that I occassionally get a network error message coming up suggesting insufficient bandwidth. Given that I have a wired 10/100 connection and tests prove that the bandwidth is more than adequate, I don't understand where the problem can lie.

In the end, I'd have to say the technology doesn't really seem to be there yet and I'm seriously hoping that Linksys come up with some fixes in the not too distant future. My feeling is that it is usable the way it is but not with the type of functionality one would have been entitled to expect.
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Hi,
Very informative mail . Thanks . I have been having lots of issues with the DMA 2100 in spite of having a 100 MB/Sec wired connection . The issue is mainly no audio in DVR-MS files ( intermittent ) . Sometimes I will get audio and sometimes no audio .Here is what I do

1) Rip the DVD to Hard drive using DVD HD FAB Decrypter with no compression .
2) This will create AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS .Go to VIDEO_TS and choose the VOB files that contain the main title .
3) Open VIDEO REDO TV suite and click on quickstream fix .. Then choose the VOB files mentioned in step 2 . Output this to a DVR-MS file and choose the enable filters and selec stream to chose the audio stream .
4) Once you have the DVR-MS created check it within MEdia Center . Everything is fine with Audio and Video

My PC is HP M9040N quad-core Q6660 CPU 2.4 GHZ with 3 GB RAM running Windows VISTA Home Premium .

5) Now the problem -- I play it on my Linksys DMA 2100 extender . Nice Video but no audio . Sometimes I will get Audio .

I am really baffled by the issue . Any help or feedback will be much appreciated .
Well this is very similar to what I'm doing except I use DVD shrink to rip the DVD to the hard disk (extracting only the main title and preferred audio stream) and then use VideoRedo to remux into a DVR-MS file. This seems to work fine for me although I haven't done mountains of testing at this stage.
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Well this is very similar to what I'm doing except I use DVD shrink to rip the DVD to the hard disk (extracting only the main title and preferred audio stream) and then use VideoRedo to remux into a DVR-MS file. This seems to work fine for me although I haven't done mountains of testing at this stage.

A couple of things I have learned from my experience.

for DVD I do exactly the same as philzgr8, with embedded AC3 5.1 sound. Works a treat, and bec. it's DVR-MS you can fast forward as fast as chapter to chapter searches.
I have yet been able to embed DTS 5.1 sound. The DVD Shrink part works fine, but VideRedo doesn't seem to recognise. (any ideas appreciated).

As for Live streaming. When Connected to a dedicated VMC all channels incl HD work perfectly, without fail. These are connected thru a 1GB switch.
I have an issue with the dedicated VMC and changed it to