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HDMI Dramas w/ GA-MA69G-S3H & onboard x1250

I recently bought myself a new receiver (Marantz SR7002) that has 4 HDMI inputs and 2 HDMI outputs. The plan was to connect my VMC to one HDMI input and my 32" Acer AT3220 LCD and Panasonic AX100 projector to the HDMI outputs and have the receiver switch between them.

Nice idea but I've had nothing but dramas with it in the last 3 weeks I've had it.

AUDIO PROBLEM
Firstly, I can't for the life of me get my receiver to accept HDMI audio from the VMC. I get audio from the SPDIF no problems. I then switch to HDMI audio output and nothing, zip, nada. Has anyone successfully managed to get audio out of this MoBo? I've updated to the latest Realtek drivers. It appears to be working in VMC as it says it's active when I set it to the default but still no sound to the receiver. My hope was that I would use my fancy new receiver to (eventually) decode the new HD audio formats it supports via HDMI 1.3a when I upgrad to BluRay. I understand you can only get these via HDMI and not via SPDIF. Hence why I want this to work.

VIDEO PROBLEM
I'm using the latest version of the ATI Catalyst suite. The problems are many.

1. My LCD is 1366x768 native. If I use the VGA output from the MoBo, I can run it at 1360x768 at 60Hz without a problem. Using the HDMI output from the MoBo, I can only drive it as far as 1280x768 at 60Hz and if I stuff around long enough, I can manage to get it to run at 1360x768 at 30Hz and no better. Why is this? No matter what I do, it won't budge any further.

2. The next issue is that no matter how I sequence the starting of the components, I can never get my display to start at 1280x768 once I get it set as per item 1. My display will usually fire up at 1280x720 or sometimes 1024x768. I then have to go into ATI Catalyst and change the resolution manually. It's a right royal pain in the ****. The WAF has well and truly gone out the door. I'm guessing somewhere along the line, VMC is detecting the lower setting before the LCD gets a change to send its ID. Is there some way I can have VMC fix the resolution to 1280x768 without trying to detect the display first? I've tried playing with the settings in ATI Catalyst to no avail. Maybe I'm missing something?

My Utopian home theatre setup is a disasteruntil I can sort out the above. Any help would be appreciated. Has anyone successfully managed to use HDMI from VMC through one of the new breed of HDMI 1.3a receivers regardless of brand of MoBo or receiver? It would be nice to know it's at all possible. Might give me fresh hope I'm not fighting a losing battle. I might even consider changing bits to make it work. I'm dying here.
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Re: HDMI Dramas w/ GA-MA69G-S3H & onboard x1250

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I recently bought myself a new receiver (Marantz SR7002) that has 4 HDMI inputs and 2 HDMI outputs. The plan was to connect my VMC to one HDMI input and my 32" Acer AT3220 LCD and Panasonic AX100 projector to the HDMI outputs and have the receiver switch between them.

Nice idea but I've had nothing but dramas with it in the last 3 weeks I've had it.

AUDIO PROBLEM
Firstly, I can't for the life of me get my receiver to accept HDMI audio from the VMC. I get audio from the SPDIF no problems. I then switch to HDMI audio output and nothing, zip, nada. Has anyone successfully managed to get audio out of this MoBo? I've updated to the latest Realtek drivers. It appears to be working in VMC as it says it's active when I set it to the default but still no sound to the receiver. My hope was that I would use my fancy new receiver to (eventually) decode the new HD audio formats it supports via HDMI 1.3a when I upgrad to BluRay. I understand you can only get these via HDMI and not via SPDIF. Hence why I want this to work.

VIDEO PROBLEM
I'm using the latest version of the ATI Catalyst suite. The problems are many.

1. My LCD is 1366x768 native. If I use the VGA output from the MoBo, I can run it at 1360x768 at 60Hz without a problem. Using the HDMI output from the MoBo, I can only drive it as far as 1280x768 at 60Hz and if I stuff around long enough, I can manage to get it to run at 1360x768 at 30Hz and no better. Why is this? No matter what I do, it won't budge any further.

2. The next issue is that no matter how I sequence the starting of the components, I can never get my display to start at 1280x768 once I get it set as per item 1. My display will usually fire up at 1280x720 or sometimes 1024x768. I then have to go into ATI Catalyst and change the resolution manually. It's a right royal pain in the ****. The WAF has well and truly gone out the door. I'm guessing somewhere along the line, VMC is detecting the lower setting before the LCD gets a change to send its ID. Is there some way I can have VMC fix the resolution to 1280x768 without trying to detect the display first? I've tried playing with the settings in ATI Catalyst to no avail. Maybe I'm missing something?

My Utopian home theatre setup is a disasteruntil I can sort out the above. Any help would be appreciated. Has anyone successfully managed to use HDMI from VMC through one of the new breed of HDMI 1.3a receivers regardless of brand of MoBo or receiver? It would be nice to know it's at all possible. Might give me fresh hope I'm not fighting a losing battle. I might even consider changing bits to make it work. I'm dying here.
I just started using hdmi yesterday to my lcd and Avr.In order to get sound over hdmi I had to switch on that option in the bios , boot to windows , go to control panel , windows sound applet and then change the putput for audio from spidf to hdmi.Sound now works over hdmi.
Make sure to select sound over hdmi on your avr as well.
As far as I know HDMI connections only support a few video resolutions ie 480 , 576 ,720,768 and 1080.I ended up using vga for the lcd@1366 x 768 and hdmi for the projector otherwise I had the same experience you are having.
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Re: HDMI Dramas w/ GA-MA69G-S3H & onboard x1250

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My Utopian home theatre setup is a disasteruntil I can sort out the above. Any help would be appreciated. Has anyone successfully managed to use HDMI from VMC through one of the new breed of HDMI 1.3a receivers regardless of brand of MoBo or receiver? It would be nice to know it's at all possible. Might give me fresh hope I'm not fighting a losing battle. I might even consider changing bits to make it work. I'm dying here.
Note that the HDMI output on the motherboard is version 1.2, NOT 1.3
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Note that the HDMI output on the motherboard is version 1.2, NOT 1.3
Really? Did you read that somewhere? Gigabyte spec info is crap. It kinda sucks if it is 1.2. I'm in no hurry to get a BluRay player so it may well be that I'll be due for a PC upgrade by the time I need the audio formats that 1.3a delivers.

Are there any HDMI 1.3a graphics/audio cards/MoBos out there then? I must admit, I assumed that the MoBo just passed the raw data and that my AV receiver actually did the decoding of the signal. I've not thought much about it really. Hmm.
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I just started using hdmi yesterday to my lcd and Avr.In order to get sound over hdmi I had to switch on that option in the bios , boot to windows , go to control panel , windows sound applet and then change the putput for audio from spidf to hdmi.Sound now works over hdmi.
Make sure to select sound over hdmi on your avr as well.
As far as I know HDMI connections only support a few video resolutions ie 480 , 576 ,720,768 and 1080.I ended up using vga for the lcd@1366 x 768 and hdmi for the projector otherwise I had the same experience you are having.
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Thanks ozcal. I'm not sure there is a BIOS option on my MoBo but I'm going to have a look as soon as the missuz finishes watching her backlog of recorded shows.
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Re: HDMI Dramas w/ GA-MA69G-S3H & onboard x1250

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1. My LCD is 1366x768 native. If I use the VGA output from the MoBo, I can run it at 1360x768 at 60Hz without a problem. Using the HDMI output from the MoBo, I can only drive it as far as 1280x768 at 60Hz and if I stuff around long enough, I can manage to get it to run at 1360x768 at 30Hz and no better. Why is this? No matter what I do, it won't budge any further.?
HDMI is not a computer video connector format - it's designed for TV and therefore doesn't usually support resolutions like 1366x768. It is also generally self-configuring. So your problem is likely that the TV reports to the HTPC that it's best resolution is 720p (1280x720) - a standard TV resulution. So if you want to stick with HDMI then 720p is probably the best resolution to run on your setup as that's what the TV is telling the video system it can support. With the size of monitor you're running you're unlikely to notice much difference with a higher resolution anyway.
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Really? Did you read that somewhere? Gigabyte spec info is crap. It kinda sucks if it is 1.2. I'm in no hurry to get a BluRay player so it may well be that I'll be due for a PC upgrade by the time I need the audio formats that 1.3a delivers.
Its in the FAQ section on Gigabyte's website
Is your TV input 1.3 compatable?
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Its in the FAQ section on Gigabyte's website
Is your TV input 1.3 compatable?
Yep, I found it in the FAQ. Dead right. Bugger.

As far as I know, the key new thing about HDMI 1.3a is the audio formats it supports rather than the video. I'm feeding the HDMI and audio through the receiver so the HDMI video on the TV isn't an issue.
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HDMI is not a computer video connector format - it's designed for TV and therefore doesn't usually support resolutions like 1366x768. It is also generally self-configuring. So your problem is likely that the TV reports to the HTPC that it's best resolution is 720p (1280x720) - a standard TV resulution. So if you want to stick with HDMI then 720p is probably the best resolution to run on your setup as that's what the TV is telling the video system it can support. With the size of monitor you're running you're unlikely to notice much difference with a higher resolution anyway.
I went out and bought a VGA cable to compare the video between it and HDMI. I can't see a great deal of difference between 1280x768, 128x720 or 1366x768. With VGA, the text seems a little crisper and the menu scrolling seems smoother. I'm guessing this is because with VGA, I'm running 1366x768 at 85Hz. I think I'm going to stick with VGA for now. The plan is to upgrade to a 1080p display in the next 6 months, so that's when it becomes more important to me. Fingers crossed it works as intended when that day comes.
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AUDIO PROBLEM
Firstly, I can't for the life of me get my receiver to accept HDMI audio from the VMC. I get audio from the SPDIF no problems. I then switch to HDMI audio output and nothing, zip, nada. Has anyone successfully managed to get audio out of this MoBo? I've updated to the latest Realtek drivers. It appears to be working in VMC as it says it's active when I set it to the default but still no sound to the receiver. My hope was that I would use my fancy new receiver to (eventually) decode the new HD audio formats it supports via HDMI 1.3a when I upgrad to BluRay. I understand you can only get these via HDMI and not via SPDIF. Hence why I want this to work.
ok, read the manual very carefully...when it talks about HDMI, does it say its a Switcher or a Repeater???

Pretty much, If the amp is a HDMI Switcher, it will NOT accept ANY HDMI Audio...zip, zlich, nada.
If the Amp is a HDMI REPEATER then it should be doing the sound..

I have the same problem...spent over $1000 on a 6.2 setup, made sure i got a HDMI amp, and i needed to buy an external sound card to get an optical/coaxal connection to the amp...

Does you TV sound work on HDMI??? That at-least lets you know the HDMI Audio is working...
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