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  #30 (permalink)  
By vlad on 8th March 2007, 06:53 PM
Re: OneCare Comes Dead Last

Haven't you learn anything?
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By simbot82 on 8th March 2007, 09:48 PM
Re: OneCare Comes Dead Last

"You Folks" dont generalise it doesn't reflect well on your arguement. Like any good Aussie (that includes all aussies even those from other countries cause we love you all getafix et al) we like a laugh, an intelligent arguement and a beer at the pub but we dont like tall poppies.

I do hope you stick around and get to know us better
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By vlad on 8th March 2007, 09:52 PM
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(that includes all aussies even those from other countries cause we love you all getafix et al)
Are you talking to me?
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By simbot82 on 9th March 2007, 01:22 AM
Re: OneCare Comes Dead Last

tyhats right vlad. I think being aussie is a state of mind, an acceptance that we are larrikans from all walks of life and all these different cultures who share a love for this country.
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By ExtremePC on 9th March 2007, 06:59 AM
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Folks in this community just can't get past personal statement, can they? I could bore you with college formal logic but because I've been around 25 years does not mean that I have specialization for nearly that long in A/V tech. I could cite lots of fun proofs but why bother? Oh, and I'm being on my best behavior and not pointing out all the spelling errors in your post.

The statement that really does you in is, "I'm not saying that this is the case with the study your referencing. . . " This is innuendo. It is conjecture. It is NOT fact. It is like my saying something like George Bush is really a Commie. It has no real substance.

So back to THIS thread: Do you have any information about this study or about OneCare?
Jeez you're a condescending biatch! For you, the best AV solution would be to not run one at all but instead protect yourself by not going onto the internet at all for the rest of your life. Go outside and get a life, 25 years seem to have left you scarred and bitter, maybe you should have chosen a different career.

Hang on I'll just add some smileys,

BTW. Isn't it interesting that G Data AV has the top scores in the link you provided but totally fails in the tests performed by Virus Bulletin. In fact GDATA which is AV Comparatives top scorer failed 12 times out of the 22 monthly tests performed by Virus Bulletin. If your going to link to an AV test lab at least link to one we know and trust not some German backwater lab. Stack this against NOD32 which has failed only 3 times in the last 47 monthly tests.
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By ray34 on 9th March 2007, 07:43 AM
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Jeez you're a condescending biatch! For you, the best AV solution would be to not run one at all but instead protect yourself by not going onto the internet at all for the rest of your life. Go outside and get a life, 25 years seem to have left you scarred and bitter, maybe you should have chosen a different career.

Hang on I'll just add some smileys,

BTW. Isn't it interesting that G Data AV has the top scores in the link you provided but totally fails in the tests performed by Virus Bulletin. In fact GDATA which is AV Comparatives top scorer failed 12 times out of the 22 monthly tests performed by Virus Bulletin. If your going to link to an AV test lab at least link to one we know and trust not some German backwater lab. Stack this against NOD32 which has failed only 3 times in the last 47 monthly tests.
Okay, you do a personal attack, you don't really ready my reply (I gave no links; that was the original story), and you cite other data without giving a link.

As to a life, hmmm. I've stood at the North Pole, cruised the Antarctic, will be in Spain in May and Iceland and Greenland in September. Spent a month in China. Five weeks camping in Australia. Plus time in Europe and South America. Last year I trekked to the Taj Mahal and Angkor Waht (plus visited Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam). Made my first million by age 35. Was president of a tech user group for 7 years. Published my first book way back in the early 80's. Ran the second oldest Fidonet node in the Midwest US and started one of the oldest BBS' in the US (started in 1979 on an Apple ][). Have 3 German Shepherds. Made my second million before 40. Taught classes and lectured. Yeah, you're right, I do need a life....

Not that this has anything to do with the thread so I'll leave you on your own.
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By philzgr8 on 9th March 2007, 07:47 AM
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Okay, you do a personal attack, you don't really ready my reply (I gave no links; that was the original story), and you cite other data without giving a link.

As to a life, hmmm. I've stood at the North Pole, cruised the Antarctic, will be in Spain in May and Iceland and Greenland in September. Spent a month in China. Five weeks camping in Australia. Plus time in Europe and South America. Last year I trekked to the Taj Mahal and Angkor Waht (plus visited Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam). Made my first million by age 35. Was president of a tech user group for 7 years. Published my first book way back in the early 80's. Ran the second oldest Fidonet node in the Midwest US and started one of the oldest BBS' in the US (started in 1979 on an Apple ][). Have 3 German Shepherds. Made my second million before 40. Taught classes and lectured. Yeah, you're right, I do need a life....

Not that this has anything to do with the thread so I'll leave you on your own.
ROFL... What a wonderful person you must be! It must be hard to be humble in your shoes. You clearly are a man of the world. I just wonder if you've ever considered politics. I know they have egos there that might rival yours.

P.S. Being a millionaire these days BTW probably means you own a house. lol
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By vlad on 9th March 2007, 08:06 AM
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Okay, you do a personal attack, you don't really ready my reply (I gave no links; that was the original story), and you cite other data without giving a link.

As to a life, hmmm. I've stood at the North Pole, cruised the Antarctic, will be in Spain in May and Iceland and Greenland in September. Spent a month in China. Five weeks camping in Australia. Plus time in Europe and South America. Last year I trekked to the Taj Mahal and Angkor Waht (plus visited Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam). Made my first million by age 35. Was president of a tech user group for 7 years. Published my first book way back in the early 80's. Ran the second oldest Fidonet node in the Midwest US and started one of the oldest BBS' in the US (started in 1979 on an Apple ][). Have 3 German Shepherds. Made my second million before 40. Taught classes and lectured. Yeah, you're right, I do need a life....

Not that this has anything to do with the thread so I'll leave you on your own.
Well I think more of the future, old people collect memories and talk a lot about themselves. The book you have published, is it autobiography?
I see that life did not make you wise Stick to you German Shepherds. I bet they love you
PS. Get a song "So What" by Metallica - you will love it.
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By ray34 on 9th March 2007, 08:09 AM
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Oh I know words a lot bigger than vacuous.

Trumpeting ones years of experience (25, count 'em 25!) is just silly in this context since the entire subject matter (PC's and viruses) haven't been household items that long. I came across my first computer virus on my trsty old Amiga 1000 back around 1986 if memory serves. That experience, while perhaps an interesting to an Amigaphile isn't relevent to today's world.

In some cases I would prefer to have Dr. Just out of med school who is armed with the latest in treatment and diagnosis rather than Dr. Old Fart who hasn't kept up with the literature in the last 25 years. There are analogies to be made with computer specialists.

A detection rate of 82% isn't as good as other products, but detection of more than four out of five is far better than better than nothing.

A/V products leap frog each other constantly in terms of detection rate. But they have to be light on resources and easy to install and use, as well as cheap, otherwise people won't use them at all. Guaranteed no security is worse than a false sense of one, even at 80%.

Oz
Oz, Thanks for taking the time to reply. Detection rate is where I came into this so I won't try another go round. A/V products absolutely leap frog but the best tend to stay near the top.

I've thought about my attitude in responding to folks here and the attitude of those replying. I can't get over people calling my messages condescending for just pointing out inconsistencies and libel (making written remarks without basis or proof). I can't wrap my mind around folks who sully a study or company without a single fact and then attack someone who questions their veracity.

And, then, instead of addressing the real issues, every reply focuses on my mention of years which has NOTHING to do with the topic. One of my college professors argued that people today are losing the ability to debate; that attention spans are too short and that avoiding central issues is far easier (I really wanted to throw in Latin here but I stopped myself) than holding to the topic.

In the USA, we haven't had real political debates in years. Each question is turned either to a point one of the participants wants to make or an attack on another participant. I was hoping to find useful discourse instead of trite responses.

Not to you, Oz, but to everyone: If you want to discuss the thread topic I'm here but attacking the format or structure or tone of a reply is utterly useless.
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By philzgr8 on 9th March 2007, 08:19 AM
Re: OneCare Comes Dead Last

Ray,
In case you hadn't noticed this is a forum. One of the central purposes of the forum is to air opinions and discuss them. Please forgive us mere mortals from describing your condescending attitude condescending. Personally I could have thought of a number of other words but forum rules prevent their use. The truth is discussing any topic with someone so obviously conceited as yourself actually serves little purpose as clearly you give no credence to the opinions of anyone but yourself.

By the way, I'm 6' 6" tall. I must be good!
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By ray34 on 9th March 2007, 08:34 AM
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Well I think more of the future, old people collect memories and talk a lot about themselves. The book you have published, is it autobiography?
I see that life did not make you wise Stick to you German Shepherds. I bet they love you
PS. Get a song "So What" by Metallica - you will love it.
My grandma said if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all...
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By ray34 on 9th March 2007, 08:36 AM
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Ray,
In case you hadn't noticed this is a forum. One of the central purposes of the forum is to air opinions and discuss them. Please forgive us mere mortals from describing your condescending attitude condescending. Personally I could have thought of a number of other words but forum rules prevent their use. The truth is discussing any topic with someone so obviously conceited as yourself actually serves little purpose as clearly you give no credence to the opinions of anyone but yourself.

By the way, I'm 6' 6" tall. I must be good!
And instead of politely showing me the error of my ways and addressing the subject you must be so proud now that you showed me who I am!
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By philzgr8 on 9th March 2007, 08:41 AM
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And instead of politely showing me the error of my ways and addressing the subject you must be so proud now that you showed me who I am!
Well I did try earlier but you didn't appear to be listening. Most of us here are fairly tolerant and understand that it takes all kinds to populate the world but to be fair the banging on your drum was so loud I could hardly hear myself think. If you wish to make your opinions known then I'm quite sure you will get some informed debate from some at least but as I have been trying to get across, if you just want to come in here and trumpet your obvious worldliness then expect some flak.
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By ray34 on 9th March 2007, 08:43 AM
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I enjoy group dynamics so much. You all spin out pointless responses not aimed at me, someone you don't even know, but aimed at impressing each other.

Let me leave a thought for you all. Someone said, "truth is discussing any topic with someone so obviously conceited as yourself actually serves little purpose . . ." yet they took the time to throw the insult anyway. What does that say?
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By philzgr8 on 9th March 2007, 08:48 AM
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I enjoy group dynamics so much. You all spin out pointless responses not aimed at me, someone you don't even know, but aimed at impressing each other.

Let me leave a thought for you all. Someone said, "truth is discussing any topic with someone so obviously conceited as yourself actually serves little purpose . . ." yet they took the time to throw the insult anyway. What does that say?
What that says is that I wouldn't waste my time discussing the subject of this thread with someone who clearly only values their own opinion. What does is say of someone who gets a polite jab to tell them they are behaving condescendingly and then makes the comment that nobody had taken the time to politely show them the error of their ways?

Let's just ignore the facts a speak drivel then shall we?
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