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Don't Hit The Bottle Over VGA
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Don't Hit The Bottle Over VGA
Don't Hit The Bottle Over VGA
Published by 1617derek
25th October 2007
Lightbulb Don't Hit The Bottle Over VGA

The DIY cable installer finds many a reason to hit the bottle. But none more so than the VGA cable. Unlike its cousins, the speaker cable, the CAT5e cable and the HDMI cable, the VGA cable is out there on its own when it comes to being a sod to install. And if you want a neat and tidy media centre installation, unobtrusively siting the PC and amplifiers, perhaps in a cupboard, and running the cables in the walls and ceilings to the TV is the way go.

VGA cables are useful; every computer has a VGA port and almost all LCD TVs support VGA since LCD TVs started life as computer monitors. The VGA cable is invariably the easiest and cheapest means of getting a picture signal from a PC to a LCD TV. And when it comes to picture quality, VGA is good enough for most folks (although media centre zealots will sniff that DVI/HDMI is the only way to go).

VGA cables present two problems – the lack of pliability of the cable and the moulded plugs on the ends. A VGA cable contains 14 copper wires, a grounding, and lots of tin-foil like shielding. The cable is usually surrounded in inflexible black plastic stuff. The cable doesn’t like to bend, and tends to have a mind of its own too. You’re stuffed as far as curing the pliability problem. But there’s better news concerning the moulded plug, the focus of this article.

Moulded plugs on cables are handy, except when you want to install the cable through a tight space. Many a DIY cable installer will have spat blood on discovering that a VGA moulded plug will not fit through the service hole in a metal stud forming part of a stud wall. Whereas a big long drill bit is all that is normally required to run a cable through a concrete wall, the VGA moulded plug will require all manner of drills, chisels and bolsters to make the hole big enough to accommodate it. And how many cable installers have moaned in despair after having snagged the moulded plug whilst trying to pull the cable through a tight space: Reason enough to down tools and pour yourself a large one.

The cure to pulling a VGA cable with a moulded plug is easy – cut the plug off. But before you take the snippers to the plug, nip out to Jaycar or Dick Smiths and pick up a VGA socket wall plate ($19.95) and a low voltage circuit tester ($3.50). The idea is to locate the socket wall plate either next to the PC or next to the TV, and then run the VGA cable – minus the moulded plug of course – to the wall plate. Prior to pulling the cable, there’s a bit of work to do though.

There is no standard for the colour of the 14 wires within the VGA cable. (Incidentally, VGA plugs have 15 pins but pin 9 is not used). This is where your circuit tester comes in handy because you are going to need to determine the colour of the wires (the “pin-outs” in the jargon) for the 14 pins in the wall plate.

Determining the pin-outs is easy enough to do, if a bit tedious. First of all, get yourself a print-out of a VGA plug because you are going to have to jot down the colour of the wire for each pin. Jaycar’s website (www.jaycar.com.au) has a nice diagram – just search for “VGA socket wall”. Cut off the moulded plug and bin it. Strip back the black plastic stuff by about 10 cm and expose the copper for all 14 wires. Get a battery and rig-up a circuit with the first of your wires and your circuit tester. Touch each of the 14 pins until the bulb in the circuit tester lights. Jot down the colour of the wire for the “live” pin making sure that you’ve got the correct pin number. Repeat the process for the other wires. Once you’ve determined all the pin-outs, install the cable, connect-up to the wall socket, and say a little prayer before testing, just in case.

Some might be tempted to dispense with the circuit tester and simply hack away at the discarded plastic moulded plug with a hack-saw and screw driver to reveal the pin-outs. Good luck! I tried this and failed miserably, with a bleeding finger to show for my troubles. VGA moulded plugs are not designed to be dissected – be warned.

So don’t let an awkward VGA cable get the better of a neat cable installation: Tame the beast with a bit of ingenuity and a three dollar circuit tester. And save the bottle for another time.
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By DDH on 25th October 2007, 02:41 PM
Re: Don't Hit The Bottle Over VGA

Some great suggestions for those doing it themselves.

As an addition to this I would like to add that you can run your own VGA cable by getting some standard 12 core shielded cable from DS or other, then adding the appropriate terminations. It solves the cut the plug off the end trick, provides easier resoldering due to higher cable quality and gives a great cheap result.

You may ask 12 core? Well yes, while VGA cables connect 14 pins with 12 core you can connect 12 plus one more as the shield (13 total). The trick is that not all 14 connected pins are used. Pin 9 is a key makign the 14 comminly understood, in addition to this pin 5 is a redundant ground. Use Pin 10 as gound via the shielding.

I have one cable like this running 15m to a projector, and another of 8m running inside a frame that swings my 37" LCD off the wall.
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By Raptor on 25th October 2007, 02:59 PM
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Another tip for those who are trying to get some ply into a VGA cable is to heat it up. A hairdryer does the trick nicely. The plyability doesn't last a long time but could be the difference between getting the job sorted and killing innocent bystanders in a vent of rage!

And no, do not stick it in the oven!!!
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By 1617derek on 25th October 2007, 04:02 PM
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Some great suggestions for those doing it themselves.

As an addition to this I would like to add that you can run your own VGA cable by getting some standard 12 core shielded cable from DS or other, then adding the appropriate terminations. It solves the cut the plug off the end trick, provides easier resoldering due to higher cable quality and gives a great cheap result.

You may ask 12 core? Well yes, while VGA cables connect 14 pins with 12 core you can connect 12 plus one more as the shield (13 total). The trick is that not all 14 connected pins are used. Pin 9 is a key makign the 14 comminly understood, in addition to this pin 5 is a redundant ground. Use Pin 10 as gound via the shielding.

I have one cable like this running 15m to a projector, and another of 8m running inside a frame that swings my 37" LCD off the wall.
You'd have to be pretty handy with a soldering iron mate. Us mere mortals would only end up burning our fingers and making a hash of the job. Factory made VGA cables run up to 15m for about 40 bucks - I can't imagine you can go much cheaper than that. Why give yourself the hassle of the soldering?
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By ExtremePC on 25th October 2007, 04:13 PM
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Soldering! bah! who needs it, if you search hard enough you can find these:
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By arkay on 25th October 2007, 04:51 PM
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or just use cat5e/6. There's guides on the net of how to run VGA over cat5. It works well. The 10m cat5 cable I made up at home for VGA works better than a store bought shielded 2m cable. Soldering is required though.

Or just buy the adapters like these...

Cheers,

Arkay.
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By 1617derek on 25th October 2007, 05:28 PM
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Arkay mate, I can't see the benefit in messing about with CAT5 unless you need to run very long distances (i.e. greater than 15m). Those US adaptors cost US$140 (after discount!) - I can't see many folks shelling out that sort of dough.
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By arkay on 26th October 2007, 12:59 AM
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Arkay mate, I can't see the benefit in messing about with CAT5 unless you need to run very long distances (i.e. greater than 15m). Those US adaptors cost US$140 (after discount!) - I can't see many folks shelling out that sort of dough.
Haha.. Depends.. Many people shell out dough for convenience all the time.

The cat5 thing is simple if you're any good with a soldering iron and as you're article suggests, running VGA cable can be a nightmare.. Not so for cat5...

Cheers,

Arkay.
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By StarTV on 22nd December 2008, 04:17 PM
Re: Don't Hit The Bottle Over VGA

I'm going make up a cable using CAT5/6 cable to extend the VGA output from the HTPC to the lcd's vga input which is located in the bedroom. The run will be approx 11-12m.

Arkay,
What res and refresh rate are you running?
What make of cable are you using?

Extreme PC,
Where do you find those solder-less HD15 connectors?

Thanks!
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By arkay on 22nd December 2008, 04:57 PM
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I run 1368x768@60p. Have no idea what the cable was, just some generic cat5 that was lying about at work, it was a full cable with molded plugs (so a commercial quality cable, not home made), I just cut the ends off and soldered the VGA connectors on.

Cheers,

Arkay.
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By StarTV on 23rd December 2008, 11:28 AM
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Thanks Arkay.

So I gather you are running it to a panel or projector?
Do you find any issues with picture quality?

I have read mixed reports with people using Cat5 cable for VGA. Some quite good and then people who had ordinary results.

As far as pin connections are concerned you simply followed the schematic in the link in your post above?
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By arkay on 23rd December 2008, 11:33 AM
Re: Don't Hit The Bottle Over VGA

The PQ on my 50" plasma was better with the 10 meter cat5 than another store bought 2 meter VGA cable I had and the 2m one wasn't cheap. I'm currently not using the cat5 vga cable though. I initially made it to use with a projector but I don't have the PJ anymore.

The pinouts in the doco were all I had to go by and it worked fine.

Cheers,

Arkay.
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