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Old 20th November 2005, 05:43 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
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Re: "The Hibernator" Support and Feedback

No I realised that... and should have mentioned that I am playing around trying to get it right for a file server....
I should have mentioned that I have been doing all different combinations... Doing it when the machine was idle.... hmmm... It actually put my machine INTO standby while it had been profiling for 10 or so seconds ??? Or something put it into Idle...

Not sure if its because the values are just so low or not ? Disk=6 Network=3
My silly method of trying while it was serving - certainly kept the machine alive during the playback, and it did sleep when it stopped... Just playing with numbers until I get it right...
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No I realised that... and should have mentioned that I am playing around trying to get it right for a file server....
I should have mentioned that I have been doing all different combinations... Doing it when the machine was idle.... hmmm... It actually put my machine INTO standby while it had been profiling for 10 or so seconds ??? Or something put it into Idle...

Not sure if its because the values are just so low or not ? Disk=6 Network=3
My silly method of trying while it was serving - certainly kept the machine alive during the playback, and it did sleep when it stopped... Just playing with numbers until I get it right...
Windows APM should be disabled if your using this just in case. Still keep hibernation checked, just disable all the timeouts. It won't go to sleep midway through profiling unless windows APM did it or somehow you managed to run it twice.

Low values should work fine. If disk >6 or net >3 then it'll stay awake. Which is what you want... You could set them much higher though as a real disk transfer (not just background noise) will likely me in MB/sec, network will be at least 10k/sec even if it's just downloading over broadband etc etc... If your transfering a file across the network again it'll be MB/sec

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Re: "The Hibernator" Support and Feedback

I just thought it was funny how it went to sleep while profiling !!! Looking good so far - I just played with the numbers a little - always gotta tweak things eh!!! I rounded them down to CPU=100 Disk=5 Network=3 and it looks good so far...

Let it settle down, then I'll try it for real on my MCE machine... Was always reluctant to do it after hearing how you lost a recording in the previous version, when the machine went to sleep half way thru it.... yuk! But now it monitors all three, I doubt you will see that happen again !
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I just thought it was funny how it went to sleep while profiling !!! Looking good so far - I just played with the numbers a little - always gotta tweak things eh!!! I rounded them down to CPU=100 Disk=5 Network=3 and it looks good so far...

Let it settle down, then I'll try it for real on my MCE machine... Was always reluctant to do it after hearing how you lost a recording in the previous version, when the machine went to sleep half way thru it.... yuk! But now it monitors all three, I doubt you will see that happen again !
That only happened the once during a week of "production" testing when I had my threshold set to high on the CPU. Even v1 performed flawlessly on my machine for quite a while (while I was away on hols etc). It certainly won't happen with all three being monitored, and now it's far easier to configure and get right. I haven't had to do any tweaking on my system at all. Install, profile once and apply. Been fine ever since So there shouldn't be too much need for tweaking in this version and now it's very useful for things such as fileservers etc.. Actually, on any windows machine. It's even installed on my office machine which can be doing nothing but downloading at 5 k/sec and it works fine there too.

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Re: "The Hibernator" Support and Feedback

Sorry - long time no answer ... the counters are indeed localized ... here the strings:

Instance: _Total
Object: Prozessor
Indicator: Prozessorzeit (%)

Hope this helps.

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That's wierd but I'm glad you found it. If it's what I think it is then MS need another firm kick.

It's sounding like the names of the performance monitors might be locale specific. In the code I tell it to connect to the perfmon stuff and grab %Processor _Total figures. If the monitors in the German locale don't have those names then it's not going to work and I might have to re-write some of the code to let the user pick the correct system monitor to use for certain metrics.

If you could can you please go start->run->perfmon and check what the name of the CPU monitor is in the text box in the bottom right of the interface. I need to know the "Counter", "Instance" and "Object" names for the CPU monitor to see if they are in fact different under non-english locales.

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Re: "The Hibernator" Support and Feedback

Maltic,

Thanks for the feedback.. Was really hoping that wasn't the case but I guess we're all entitled to our own language

Not sure as to how to go about fixing it as yet. I'll have to read up on how to get the correct metrics for the correct locale.

The only other option is to have the metrics specified in the ini file but that would mean manually having to look them up and adding them in which is not at all a good solution.

Keep checking back and I'll attempt to make it universal.

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Re: "The Hibernator" Support and Feedback

Great - any INI file with defaults for the english counters would be great. International users would have to change them if they want to use "The Hibernator" ...

However I found something in the registry:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Perflib\007, Counter
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Re: "The Hibernator" Support and Feedback

Hey Arkay,

Great APP - seems to have solved a few issues I've been having. Couple of questions.

I have Hibernator set for 2minutes (blank ss)+ 10 minutes for Hibernator(standby), should / or is it possible for Hibernator to start its time count once the SS is on? Currently profile set at 10:30:5.

e.g. I've found that my machine will go into standby while I'm reading a thread or 2 off this site (usage low). The SS hasn't come on at all as I'm using the mouse/keyboard.

I understand that Hibernator takes it sample in the last 30seconds of the time period, where possibly my utilisation is the lowest while reading (fluke I know). Shouldn't the time period only kick in once the SS has engaged.

Any suggestions / ideas, maybe I need to lift the profile.

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Re: "The Hibernator" Support and Feedback

Nudge,

Not entirely sure how you've managed to have this happen. The Hibernator isn't even running until the screensaver kicks in (it's the hibernator that runs the ss). So if you're surfing the screensaver should never kick in. i.e. Windows ss timeout shouldn't activate so the Hibernator should never run.

If you're ss was running (blank ss for instance), as soon as you interrupt it the ss will die and so should The Hibernator. (You can check this in the log, see below).

The only time it should go to sleep is when the ss has been running for your specified length of time AND all values for Net, Disk and CPU are below the thresholds.

I'd be interested to see if you can track down what is happening. There is a log file in c:\windows called Hibernator.log. Delete the contents of the log, set the windows ss kick in time to 1 min and the Hibernator timeout to say 2 mins and experiment, do nothing, see if it works, interrupt the ss, see if it doesn't go to sleep etc... and check the log file each time, you should be able to see everything it's doing.

You're disk threshold (30) seems very high too. Are they values that it found for itself while profilng?

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Re: "The Hibernator" Support and Feedback

Arkay,

Thanks for the advice. I cleared the log and tried the timings you recommended. I didn't change my profile yet though. I have attached the log FYI. I think I was able to get it to standby again while surfing.

The last 2 timings should be when it occurred. The log shows it was in SS but didn't standby due to >HDD activity, timing reset to check average. At this point I was surfing using the mouse etc. it then went into standby.

I will keep tweaking this. I am trying with HDD=20. I did a few samples and kept getting averages 22-25 so I made it 30. When I get it I will also try extending the hibernator time out as well (=10minutes)

Will let you know.

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