[njmauer]

Thanks Rick

I tryed running dvrmstoolbox as you suggested and confirmed this is where the problem is.
I must have poor quality TV signal on ch 10. I ran a test with some other recordings, both from 10 and other channels and all so made some new recordings from ch 10 and use dvrmstoolbox to convert with interesting results.

All other Ch's SD worked fine
Ch 10 old and new SD recording converted but would not play, play without audio, play but freeze or pixalate, or it would launch to a black screen and would not play or freeze but you could move the play bar to any where of the vid progesion and get a still image.
Ch10 Old and new HD recordings wont convert at all

I don't have any HD recordings from other channels yet but will be trying this soon

So in general what i said about poor signal is likely and it looks like i need to do some improvements to my antenna set up

if you have any other suggestion Please let me know

Thanks
Nathan

ps. all the files are playable in MCE